So much of this, if not all, is case-by-case basis. If one wants to go extreme and say, "either medical treatment *or* prayer" well, for the majority of either side, it's ridiculous. To say, "I don't want your prayer at all!" is ridiculous, although not as ridiculous as, "I refuse ALL modern medical treatment". Heck, even the Amish, who avoid contact with the English and handle most medical emergencies themselves, WILL resort to hospital care when absolutely necessary. Seems like a reasonable compromise. Then again, they have bad teeth and do pullings instead of dentists, but maybe they should cut down on the apple pies. Whatever. So, once you leave the obvious extremes, you have narrower margins. Let's go chemo vs radiation. It depends. My mother's best friend for years is one of the longest survivors of thyroid cancer. She's one of quite literally a handful (less than 5 last I heard) that had their treatments in the late 1970s and are still around and fine. In her case, it was radiation-only, no chemo. Does that mean that chemo is bad? No. Just a case of someone who didn't use it and it worked out for. She also prayed a lot being a devout Catholic. Now, to me, I wouldn't say, "Oh, she prayed and therefore it cured her", just as I wouldn't say radiation only cured her. But I can say she didn't do chemo. Correlation? Yes. Causation? No. Would I say that prayer did nothing? No, I can't say that. Some people can say that - that's their choice, but I don't know. I was raised to believe in the "power of positive thinking", so I'm a product of my environment as