You make a solid argument comparing/contrasting plagiarism and inspiration. It's a fine line of distinction at times but you provided a solid case by analogizing to art work. Brilliantly done! I do the same critiquing for people who plagiarize my heroes as well. Carl Sagan was one of mine and I would be annoyed when his words are used by others without credit to supplement their own careers. I did, unfortunately, find a few cases where Sagan himself potentially plagiarized and I have to acknowledge that. Nobody's perfect in this way that I've ever seen. It seems that Douglas Murray may have reached a point where he ought to give credit where it is due before carrying on, lest he be knocked down before he has a chance to stand tall on his own. I can't speak DIRECTLY about the people because I don't know of Douglas Murray nor am I a follower of Hitchens' work outside of a few memes. But I agree with your principles regarding plagiarism vs inspiration and I like how you handled the situation very much. == and you're free to quote me smile emoticon For things I do, I don't care much about credit or recognition. I put things "out there" and I've had people be successful on my work without getting credit. It doesn't bother me. But that's my personal ethic and I wouldn't ask that of anybody else. I also believe strongly in defending the dead against plagiarism because they can no longer speak for themselves on their own behalf any longer. == I anonymize when I quote the living as well. You went about it the right way smile emoticon I think having an anonymous source can provide a stronger case sometimes: the mystery figure who speaks. It's rare that I name living sources, but if I do, I talk to them first to see if they want to engage in it at all. I think it's the civil way to go about it. But as for me, I don't mind, as long as I can get my two cents in as well smile emoticon I'm glad I could help! ==