Ok - thank you smile emoticon It 'clicked in' last night' that Philosophy generally seems to be development of Critical thinking skills and not much else. Not that it's a bad thing necessarily: But Critical Thinking skills isn't all to life. It helps to sort out bullshit but then there ought to be _some_ happiness beyond the bullshit that we all know is there anyway, with or without critical thinking skills tongue emoticon == That would be excellent. It would bring Academic philosophy back into-the-fold, because in the everyday usage, "someone's Philosophy" is their wisdom about life - something lived. ==