It wasn't until this very group, the Philosophy group, that I even was made aware of the acronym "MRA". I remember having to listen to Rush Limbaugh in the early 1990s at a job at a Print Shop (I ran 'the' computer - a Mac) because my boss liked listening to him. That was the last time I had heard people talk the way MRAs do today. At the time, the wave of Men's Rights was in a different realm, that of wearing loin cloths (or not), dancing around campfires in an attempt to reclaim their boyhoods and validate themselves. Feminism had a different flavor then too, and Political Correct was _still_ in the realm of etiquette that was not to be itself abused. But that was a generation-or-two ago. I spent nearly every day online in some way in all of those years, talking to as many people as possible, just like today. But it would be 20+ years before I encountered MRA. Sure, I knew people that were anti-circumcision and talked about Men's Rights, usually men who were once married but went through crappo divorces where they didn't think to invest in a good lawyer and ended up paying the lion's share, but they were in a special category for me of Victim Men. Still, forces gathered in areas of the Internet I didn't hang out in. I've learned much about subcultures. Then again, I didn't realize there was a flat earth movement that was till active until I joined Illumitardi, so I guess I was just hanging around a lot of nerds for a long time and missed out on fringes that gathered together and the places they gathered.