Can you submit phlogs to Antenna? ================================= So I am primarily a QA and hence can't help testing weird stuff that amuses me. Just now I wondered if @ew0k put in any protection to prevent people submitting web or Gopher URLs... and... well I had to try. ;) I'll add an update if this is successful. * * * [EDIT 17:20 +0100] OH MY GOD... It works. Sorry @ew0k and Antenna readers, who might be offended. I had to try. Now, questions: * @ew0k Did you intend this or did I find a bug? * Is this a good thing of a bad thing? * Should it be fixed? Personally, I kind of like it ;) [EDIT 17:40 +0100] I'll admit there was a very tiny, evil part of me that considered posting a web link to my employer's company. :P But I am 99.9% certain that would have gotten be banned from submitting to Antenna and nobody would ever speak to me again. Joke or not. I am glad I was able to resist my very worst tendencies. That said, whatever @ew0k decides with regards to Gopher links, I am pretty much certain http(s):// should be blocked! [EDIT 17:49 +0100] For anyone on Gopher who stumbles across this post and wonders what this was all about, fire up a Gemini client and read this: gemini://warmedal.se/~antenna/about.gmi Alternatively, at a push... you could potentially do the following. echo gemini://warmedal.se/~antenna/about.gmi |\ openssl s_client -crlf -quiet -connect warmedal.se:1965 -servername \ warmedal.se 2>/dev/null | tail -n +2 [EDIT 21:25 +0100] I exchanged a couple of emails with @ew0k, who took it well. `` I laughed out loud when I saw it :D He also asked if I thought it was OK that this worked. After thinking about this some more my (current) personal position is that whilst it is possible that some links are not accessible to certain users (those without a Gopher capable client), this is perhaps not any worse than when there are posts in a language other than the reader understands. So you (as a reader) always ignore some links anyway. For everyone else it just adds to diversity. I also had a think about who might want to do this. Realistically probably nobody but I can think of at least two use cases. * A user who has always been on Gopher but reads stuff on Gemini might want to setup a simple account on a service like gemlog.blue and edit the index to add links to their phlog without having to convert all phlog posts now or in the future (or fully dual host). * A user who wants to respond to a post on Gemini--or perhaps even a reply to a post that linked to their phlog in the first place. Again they need only get a free account from somewhere like gemlog.blue, generate an appropriate page with a link and submit it to Antenna. In summary, I think it is kind of nice if you leave Gopher links working... but on the flip side I guess (most likely) nobody will ever use this 'feature' and so I will not miss the support (or likely even notice) if it goes. Also, ultimately it is @ew0k's choice. Their service and their rules. ;) * * * Comments -------- -2022-01-22 20:18 +0100- Szczeżuja: `` Interesting experiment [...]. From the technical side, and social one - how will Geminispace react for Gopher links. :-) -2022-01-23 17:01 +0100- nytpu: `` I personally think that Gopherspace and Geminispace could stand to do a little more mixing. Gopher isn't *that* hard to implement, so IMO most clients should support it (although Amfora is the only major one that doesn't AFAIK). Indeed, I agree there is little reason not to have this in clients. Certainly the people who like and frequent Gopherspace and Geminispace (particularly those that write phlogs/gemlogs) have far more in common than differences. `` It might just be you and me who think phlogs on Gemini aggregators are good though, because my aggregator is the only one in Geminispace that also aggregates phlogs--well, other than Antenna now :P I have seen your feed and regularly check it. Indeed, now I think about it perhaps subconsciously having seen you mix them is what gave me the idea. -2022-01-24- ~ Non-Gemini URLs on Antenna (Re: Can you submit phlogs to Antenna?): gemini://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-01-24-non-gemini-urls-on-antenna-re-can-you-submit-phlogs-to-antenna.gmi ew0k: `` I had a good laugh at Ruario's experiment with submitting a gopher URL a couple of days ago :D The truth is that I never really considered that someone would do this. Antenna has a blocklist, which is primarily used to block itself from being added, as well as http/https links. The latter is because I've seen those added by mistake a couple of times. That someone would experiment like this never occurred to me, even though it should! I'm the kind of person who would definitely do something like that myself for shits and giggles. Anyway, I've decided that I only want gemini links on Antenna. For now there's no functionality for ensuring this in the Antenna software, and there are other things I think are more important to add. I'll just settle with blocking additional schemes as and when they show up. Thanks everyone for using Antenna and caring so much about it! I'm constantly humbled and amazed at the following it's gathered. While I feel slightly differently (see above) I totally understand and respect this decision. Plus now I get the noble honour of being the only person ever to submit a Gopher entry to Antenna, so I am calling that a win! :P [ Check out @nytpu's comitium subscriptions if you do want a good ] [ way to follow both Gemini and Gopher content. ] gemini://nytpu.com/feed.gmi * * *