06 August 2024 ... it Hurds again... ===================== Well, its now a couple of months since i messed with Hurd, my frustration has somewhat cooled off, and i found myself with a little more time available, so i decided to grab my old Thinkpad, download the 2023 netinstall iso from the Debian page and give it another try. This time, the installation was a walk in the park... everything just did run smoothly and after about 1,5 hours i had a working system. This time i also followed a little step by step guide by Almudena Garcia [1] that was really helpful in getting everything running smoothly this time. I also started diving a bit deeper into the mystery that are translators, the nice little programs that help you to interact with the world on Hurd. Just to use an example from the documentation: To connect to an anonymous FTP server you would do the following: %<----------------------------------------------- #Assuming you are in your home folder settrans -c ftp: /hurd/hostmux /hurd/ftpfs / %<----------------------------------------------- This creates the file "ftp:" that you now can use to connect to an FTP, just by cd-ing into it: %<----------------------------------------------- cd ftp:/username:password@yourftpserver.yourhost %<----------------------------------------------- You can now use this folder as any other folder on your system. Oh, and the translator stays in this place even through reboots until you tell it to disappear with "settrans -g ftp:". This time i have also set up an X11 environment using the Window Maker windowmanager, which is lightweight enough to feel nimble even on the constrained hardware of the Thinkpad T60 in combination of the not-so-fast Mach kernel. I have yet to dive deeper into the topic and discover which of the debian packages i normaly use are fully functioning (i have read that now about 80% of debian packages compile on Hurd) and just explore the system more. Regarding the state of the documentation and easily findable information (and the whole state of affairs) everything feels a bit like a trip back into the Linux days of old... personally i somewhat like that challenge. [1] https://gist.github.com/AlmuHS/f0c036631881756e817504d28217a910