Jynx started off the fascinating discussion on simple living, asceticism, and technology use [0]: "I think that my perfect life scenario is something akin to a cabin in the woods with no roads leading in. No humans for miles." That pretty much sums it up for me, although I'd insist on the companionship of my wife. Our kids are getting older, too, and she has expressed interest in moving to a more remote locale in the next five years. Her ideal is a farm but I'm quite content with a simple cabin. Those of you who are married to an, *ahem* strong personality can tell immediately how that will end. So I'd better start researching how to run a farm. Solderpunk continued, pondering a sort of reverse hedonic treadmill [1]. In my opinion this is doable. Before it went offline, I used to read the blog "The Archdruid Report", in which he proposed that we should try to "collapse now and avoid the rush" (the author has a book of the same name that is quite good, you can duck-duck-go it). That is, move our lives back to something near a far more sustainable 1950s level of technology, while keeping our modern social sensibilities. Anyway, I've been trying to plan for our future in this way for some time. Moving from the US to Canada was part of that plan - getting out from under an oppressive mortgage and down-sizing our life. Paying off all credit cards. Un-linking healthcare from my job. Moving somewhere where your kids can get a college education _without_ going into soul-crushing debt. When we moved we filled three large dumpsters full of accumulated, worthless life crap (we sold off the rest), and drove a single u-haul north. What is left in storage is mainly books. We now rent a much smaller house, and are debt-free. Just being relieved of that financial stress has made life more enjoyable, even though we kept the same level of technology. Jynx replied to the reply [2], and among other things discusses his use of technology. I try to avoid any proprietary software or online services where I am the product. My main workstation has Debian (pre-systemd) installed with the XFCE desktop. My writing I do on SDF's iceland or the metaArray, in a console emacs session. My social media use is limited to G+ - and that only as a means to schedule games with my online role-playing group. I run my own mail server. My primary calendar is paper. I have several firefox profiles, to strictly encapsulate the more invasive sites like G+, personal browsing, and work. I think "work-life balance" should just be called "life balance", to de-emphasize work. As I get older I realize how absurd the always-available aspect of modern work is. When not on-call, I don't check work email or answer calls I suspect are from work. It's my time, damnit, and I have precious little of it, even if I do live to old age. [0] gopher://sdf.org/1/users/jynx//cgi-bin/slerm.cgi?20171008.post [1] gopher://sdf.org/0/users/solderpunk/phlog/asceticism-or-something-like-it.txt [2] gopher://sdf.org/1/users/jynx//cgi-bin/slerm.cgi?20171020.post