First a quick thanks to Logout for his phlog aggregator 'bongusta' [0]. This is a great resource, if anyone reading wants to get their phlog on his list, let him know, he has a contact email on his phlog [1]. Ze Libertine Gamer comments on security and gopher [2]. I like his idea of item types handing off functionality to outside utilities. As he notes, it is very Unix-like and doesn't mess with the gopher protocol itself. Solderpunk offers up the idea of a HTTP client that enforces a strict subset of HTML5, and a community of sites built around this simple design [3]. This does have several big advantages: - Native support for TLS - Indexing by major search engines - Pages are accessible to anyone without a proxy (assuming 'anyone' here means non-technical folks who might want to read your content) On the other hand, staying with gopher has a number of advantages: - No support for TLS - No indexing by major search engines - Pages are not accessible to everyone unless they use a proxy or can grok basics of the shell Slightly tongue-in-cheek, as I'm cherry-picking to list items that can reasonably be seen by our community in both ways. For example, I think gopher needs full-text search, so I can't claim that as an advantage, as much as I'm not unhappy that my gopher site is nowhere listed in Google's search results. And presumably the subset of HTML5 would have full CGI support, allowing for the use of libraries that facilitate security. I'm also not convinced SSL support is needed for gopher, although I do agree the commenting facility based on item type 7 is insecure by design. It can be made much less so by ruthlessly filtering what is essentially a plaintext GET request. But this requires diligence on the part of the programmer. So I'm intrigued by both ideas, and perhaps they don't have to be mutually exclusive. I've been thinking a simpler gopher -> HTTP proxy is needed, the one I'm using [4] relies on javascript to render the content. Ideally the proxy would work 100% server-side, not client-side, and would output the simple subset of HTML5 Solderpunk mentions. Floodgap's lite gopher proxy [5] fits that bill, I think - but the source code is not available. [0] gopher://i-logout.cz/1/en/bongusta/ [1] gopher://i-logout.cz/1/en/phlog/ [2] gopher://zelibertinegamer.me/0/phlog/2017-08-06_1851.txt [3] gopher://sdf.org/0/users/solderpunk/phlog/quick-gophery-thoughts.txt [4] http://slugmax.tx0.org [5] http://gopher.floodgap.com/gopher/gw.lite