From: gopher-bounce@complete.org Date: Tue Nov 20 20:48:31 2007 Subject: [gopher] Re: BRING THE GOPHER BACK It would be a big help if QUUX would keep this mailing lists archives updated on Gopher gopher://gopher.quux.org/1/Archives/Mailing%20Lists/gopher Stegozor <stegozor@gmail.com> wrote: On 11/12/07, Pawel wrote: There is a quite important issue on this, keeping gopher in Mozilla core. Please see gopher://gopher.floodgap.com/1/gopher/keepcore . Cameron was working on a JavaScript implementation of Gopher protocol support (see https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=388195 for more information) because it's more or less the implicit deal. Either we get this support ported from C++ to JavaScript, a more memory-safe language, or Mozilla guys will seriously think about removing it for security reasons. We still have time, but next time this subject will be brought on the table if we have nothing in our hands, we'll not be able to convince them. May I humbly ask all hackers here to work together on this issue? Cameron can say much more than me on this issue, and sorry for not being able to help on this. > 6. Better communication > There should be some offical IRC channel There is one, #gopherproject at freenode ( irc://irc.freenode.net/gopherproject ) but it's not well known. I heard of it after having read this list for more than one year. As for the marketing, I have a quite simple proposal: let's move from this list to the public news:comp.infosystems.gopher newsgroup before it is possibly removed by the Big-8 managament board because of inactivy (The Big-8 hierarchy is protected from spam by cancelbots, so this newsgroup doesn't get flooded at all). By doing so we would allow newbies and everybody to see that the beast is still alive, and this would bring fresh blood to the community. Right now, what's happening? People look at this newsgroup and think that Gopher is dead and buried. Let's show that they're wrong. You can find several decent, free, public news servers at http://www.dmoz.org/Computers/Usenet/Public_News_Servers/ , not to mention Google Groups. And to prevent spam in your inbox, I'd suggest a free e-mail account from Gmail to use only on this newsgroup. It has POP3 and IMAP servers, mail forwarding, a web interface with and without JavaScript along with a very efficient spam filters (I use mine without modifying my mail on the web, on Usenet and elsewhere without getting my inbox flooded) so this really shouldn't be an issue. Writing a FAQ and posting it regularly would also be very useful, all this at no cost and with very few efforts. Also, just FYI, the webmaster of gnu.org has recently written an article about the server of Chris. Please see: http://exploringfreedom.org/2007/10/23/lost-technology-veronica-the-gopher-search-engine/ And guess what, he talks about Firefox. Luckily he didn't notice the port 70 bug ;-P Talking about that, maybe porting Mozilla's gopher code into JavaScript might help us to correct this... -- Goebbels was in favor of free speech for views he liked. So was Stalin. If you're in favor of free speech, then you're in favor of freedom of speech precisely for views you despise. Otherwise, you're not in favor of free speech - Noam Chomsky. --------------------------------- Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. (DIR) Followup: [gopher] Re: BRING THE GOPHER BACK (DIR) Followup: [gopher] Re: BRING THE GOPHER BACK (DIR) Followup: [gopher] Re: BRING THE GOPHER BACK (DIR) Followup: [gopher] Re: BRING THE GOPHER BACK (DIR) Followup: [gopher] Re: BRING THE GOPHER BACK (DIR) Followup: [gopher] Re: BRING THE GOPHER BACK (DIR) Followup: [gopher] Re: BRING THE GOPHER BACK (DIR) Followup: [gopher] Re: BRING THE GOPHER BACK (DIR) Followup: [gopher] Re: BRING THE GOPHER BACK (DIR) Followup: [gopher] Re: BRING THE GOPHER BACK