From: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org Date: Sat Jun 2 22:36:54 2012 Subject: Re: [gopher] Any good programmers on here? On 2 June 2012 11:37, Bradley D. Thornton <Bradley@northtech.us> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: RIPEMD160 > > > > On 06/02/2012 12:56 AM, Nick Matavka wrote: >> I've got >> a cool vintage Web browser (and Gopher client!) that used to be the >> W3C's testbed browser till they pawned it off on Yggdrasil, who >> promptly disappeared. > > Yowza! LGX! I used to base my ISP services on that and Jolix when it > became impossible to keep the Vaxen alive LOL! > > I've actually got the first few releases of Yggdrasil, and the first two > editions of "The Linux Bible - The GNU Testament", on my bookshelf... > > hm... let's see here.... > > Fall 93 - Linux Kernel version 0.99.13 > > Summer 94 and Fall 94 too. > > I've got one of them running as a VM, which I fire up sometimes, and > then there's my collection of old 386 boxes w/8bit ISA Ethernet NICs in > my Sea Container that are presumably operational if I just plug them in :) > > That's totally kewl Nick! I didn't know that about the browser though. I > spoke to Adam a couple of times back then, and have tried to find out > what happened to him (and Phil Hughes - original publisher of LJ, who I > *think* left the industry and moved to Panama or something) but the > trail dead ends everywhere I look. > > You have a great idea there though. > > > It' s called Arena and it would be great to see >> it turn into Ygg's original vision, a GPL-licenced browser for the X >> Window System (uses Motif). =A0I would love to see this browser turn >> into an HTML 3 browser that would be lightweight and super fast, >> something like Lynx with pretty pictures. >> >> =A0I've got the latest version right here. >> http://archive.debian.org/debian/dists/potato/main/source/web/arena_0.3.= 62.orig.tar.gz >> > > - -- > Bradley D. Thornton > Manager Network Services > NorthTech Computer > TEL: +1.310.388.9469 =A0(US) > TEL: +44.203.318.2755 (UK) > TEL: +41.43.508.05.10 (CH) > http://NorthTech.US > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Find this cert at x-hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net > > iQEcBAEBAwAGBQJPyjMzAAoJEE1wgkIhr9j3/6sH/juiIrwm0K3adE5psPMtIClW > PMUVPconIdBomxKf+ZW5Y3XTC9PjwN0jYi8qiNVGMFFUyOXawHwHZLixg+WBFG5i > kSYFCjAx3tEqXo0I8zbqJuYb/c2osmnyirNH8aBpN+0ooTJTK3EiOnEsjcfrCkDo > wqmb7edcA9sIhRO0GWeGXGqy5j89aWbisNQtcSybOKWr+PLzhsTdmFgKXeDmpjpx > Ew0JY2f0spHCQmc8BuxeATkF8X8zS+vT9qakk2c8HGJXsYDyuN+yM3qSgSDmPKet > 6LZjGUOdNLAEG4Bw1G0zxOuolQ0UNkewnkHrEezQWctAduPpM42wWNzE3zIoeO8=3D > =3DYypc > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > Gopher-Project mailing list > Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project Now that I've mentally woken up, I have something more coherent for you. Yes, Arena was taken up by the same corporation that assembled LGX (assuming you are talking about what would today be called a Linux Live CD). Yeah, Adam Richter certainly was a man ahead of his time. Pity Arena was discontinued; it has its problems, sure, but it's lightweight, Gopher-compatible, and open-source, as a browser should be. Mosaic-CK as written is not too bad, but I feel that an alternative might actually be viable. Then again, I have a soft spot for old software (not so much old hardware). I mean, it must be insane to use alpine as a mail client, lynx as a web/gopher client, ttytter for tweeting, NCSA Mosaic when one needs "pretty pictures" on the web, and ditto for GopherVR, and all this on a brand spanking new MacBook Pro, but there I am, eh? Actually, I skipped the craziest part: I edit in TECO (yes, the old tape editor for the PDP-10), Anyway, I don't know if it's insanity or nostalgia, but I feel that Yggdrasil's vision is still as much of a possibility now as it was thirteen years ago, and, for some even more insane reason, I'd love to find out. I don't feel like messing with Yggdrasil's plan; this thing doesn't need today's bells and whistles on it---it just needs to be stable and compatible with *simple* Web pages (Facebook is OUT). Hypothetically speaking, of course. -- Nick. -- = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0/^\/^\ =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0\----| =A0 =A0_---'---~~~~-_ =A0 =A0 ~~~|~~L~|~~~~ =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0(/_ =A0/~~-- =A0 =A0 =A0\~ \ =A0/ =A0/~ =A0 =A0__~\ =A0~ / =A0 ~~----, =A0 =A0\ =A0 =A0| | =A0 =A0 =A0 / =A0\ =A0 =A0/| =A0 |/ =A0 =A0 =A0 | =A0 =A0| =A0 =A0| | | o =A0o =A0 =A0 /~ =A0 | =A0_-~_ =A0| =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0|| =A0\ =A0/ (// )) | o =A0o =A0 =A0\\---' //_- | =A0| =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0\ // =A0 |____|\______\__\ ~ =A0 =A0 =A0| =A0 / | =A0 =A0| =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0|_ / =A0 \ _| =A0 =A0 =A0/~___| =A0/____\ _______________________________________________ Gopher-Project mailing list Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project Thread start (DIR) [gopher] Any good programmers on here? (DIR) Followup: Re: [gopher] Any good programmers on here?