From: "Gopher-Project" <gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org>
       Date: Fri Dec 19 02:40:13 2014
       Subject: Re: [gopher] cgod - a new prototype gopher daemon
       
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       <html><head></head><body data-blackberry-caret-color=3D"#00a8df" style=3D"b=
       ackground-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); line-height: initial;"><div style=3D"w=
       idth: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-ser=
       if; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255=
       , 255, 255);">"Name That Tune" with code isn=E2=80=99t terribly useful, hon=
       estly. But, it can be done in a few kilobytes off C binary. (Remember the r=
       untime size for things like Python or Ruby or Perl, before thinking about s=
       aying "that's too big!")</div><div style=3D"width: 100%; font-size: initial=
       ; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); t=
       ext-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br></div><div s=
       tyle=3D"width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro',=
        sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color=
       : rgb(255, 255, 255);">No, I haven=E2=80=99t written such a tiny =E2=80=8Es=
       erver myself, but as Gopher is such a simple protocol, the Gopher equivalen=
       t of thttpd would be even smaller than that binary.&nbsp;</div><div style=
       =3D"width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', san=
       s-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rg=
       b(255, 255, 255);"><br></div><div style=3D"width: 100%; font-size: initial;=
        font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); te=
       xt-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">I just think we h=
       ave better things to do with our time than "I did it in a 1041 byte ELF bin=
       ary I crafted in assembly by hand, including the ELF header!"</div>        =
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       serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(=
       255, 255, 255);">Matt<br><br>-- <br>Matt Lewandowsky<br>Big Geek<br>Greenvi=
       olet<br>matt@greenviolet.net http://www.greenviolet.net<br>+1 415 578 5782 =
       (US) +44 844 484 8254 (UK)<br>Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.</div> =
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                                        <table width=3D"100%" style=3D"background-=
       color:white;border-spacing:0px;"> <tbody><tr><td colspan=3D"2" style=3D"fon=
       t-size: initial; text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);=
       ">                                              <div id=3D"_persistentHeade=
       r" style=3D"border-style: solid none none; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, =
       223); border-top-width: 1pt; padding: 3pt 0in 0in; font-family: Tahoma, 'BB=
        Alpha Sans', 'Slate Pro'; font-size: 10pt;">  <div><b>From: </b>Matthew Ho=
       levinski</div><div><b>Sent: </b>Thursday, December 18, 2014 17:32</div><div=
       ><b>To: </b>Gopher Project Discussion</div><div><b>Reply To: </b>Gopher Pro=
       ject Discussion</div><div><b>Subject: </b>Re: [gopher] cgod - a new prototy=
       pe gopher daemon</div></div></td></tr></tbody></table><div style=3D"border-=
       style: solid none none; border-top-color: rgb(186, 188, 209); border-top-wi=
       dth: 1pt; font-size: initial; text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(25=
       5, 255, 255);"></div><br><div id=3D"_originalContent" style=3D""><div dir=
       =3D"ltr">So who has built the smallest gopher compliant server executable?<=
       br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, =
       Dec 18, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Kevin Veroneau <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"ma=
       ilto:kevin@veroneau.net" target=3D"_blank">kevin@veroneau.net</a>&gt;</span=
       > wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border=
       -left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>Personally for a gopher server,=
        I like it build in a compiled language like C, and for the ability to run =
       it from inetd.  Since my gopher traffic is rather minimum, I don't feel tha=
       t I need a gopher process running all the time taking up resources other ap=
       plications could be using.<br>
       <br>
       I love Python and it is my go-to language for almost anything under the sun=
       .  I've been a hardcore Django web dev for years now.  But for a gopher ser=
       ver, I'd rather opt for minimalizm.  Which is why I choose mgod over the ot=
       her gopher servers available.<br>
       <br>
       It is nice however that you managed to create a new Gopher server in Python=
       .  Maybe one day if my Gopher traffic becomes demanding enough will I move =
       off of an inetd solution.<br>
       <br>
       I also use Bitbucket, and previously built a Pythonic API to their REST API=
       .  As noted in a previous email, I am planning on making SCM gateways for G=
       opher, one of them being Mercurial.  My first one will of course be my favo=
       rite SCM, good old classic Subversion.  These gateways will be made in Pyth=
       on of course.<br>
       <br>
       I may consider using a Python based Gopher server if running Python apps on=
       top of it were seamless.  Right now with mgod, each Python script is forked=
       , so it sort of limits the sort of Gopher apps I could potential build.<br>
       <br>
       For example, it would be cool if said Gopher server was very extendable via=
        custom Python apps.  Similar to how Django has an Apps system and url disp=
       atcher.  So rather than forking, the code is already in memory.  It would b=
       e a perfect server for hosters like me who only host their own site.  I cou=
       ld see apps being made for various gateways, and multihosting using the cla=
       ssic tilde.<br>
       <br>
       Those are my thoughts and opinions.<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div>=
       <div class=3D"h5">On December 18, 2014 1:29:59 PM MST, James Mills &lt;<a h=
       ref=3D"mailto:prologic@shortcircuit.net.au" target=3D"_blank">prologic@shor=
       tcircuit.net.au</a>&gt; wrote:</div></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote"=
        style=3D"margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);p=
       adding-left:1ex"><div><div class=3D"h5">
       <div dir=3D"ltr">Anyway... :) Now that' this thread has turned into all abo=
       ut donwloads and tools...<div><br></div><div>Let's get back on topic -- I b=
       uilt a new prototype gopher daemon</div><div>ih a high level language :)</d=
       iv><div><br></div><div>IHMO pygopherd is a bit old in the tooth :)</div><di=
       v><br></div><div>cheers</div><div>James<br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_=
       extra"><br clear=3D"all"><div><div><span style=3D"border-collapse:collapse;=
       color:rgb(136,136,136);font-size:13px"><br><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif"=
       >James Mills / prologic</font><br><br><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif"></fo=
       nt><font face=3D"'courier new', monospace">E:&nbsp;<a href=3D"mailto:prolog=
       ic@shortcircuit.net.au" style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,204)" target=3D"_blank">prol=
       ogic@shortcircuit.net.au</a></font></span><div><span style=3D"font-family:'=
       courier new',monospace;color:rgb(136,136,136);font-size:13px">W:&nbsp;</spa=
       n><a href=3D"http://prologic.shortcircuit.net.au" style=3D"font-family:'cou=
       rier new',monospace;font-size:13px;color:rgb(0,0,204)" target=3D"_blank">pr=
       ologic.shortcircuit.net.au</a><br></div></div></div>
       <br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 6:19 AM, James Mills=
        <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:prologic@shortcircuit.net.au" targ=
       et=3D"_blank">prologic@shortcircuit.net.au</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<blockquote=
        class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc soli=
       d;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><span><br><=
       div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 2:21 AM, Kim Holviala <sp=
       an dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kim@holviala.com" target=3D"_blank">ki=
       m@holviala.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
       =3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>You=
       =E2=80=99ll get more downloads and people looking at your code if you don=
       =E2=80=99t force everyone to install some app called =E2=80=9Chg=E2=80=9D. =
       What is it, btw?</div><span><font color=3D"#888888"></font><div><font color=
       =3D"#888888"></font></div></span></blockquote></div><br></span>Git's compet=
       itor :)</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra=
       ">mercurial and git started out at about the same time</div><div class=3D"g=
       mail_extra">but IHMO (and everyone else's) git onw out</div><div class=3D"g=
       mail_extra">the popularity contest :)</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><=
       /div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">cheers</div><span><font color=3D"#888888"><=
       /font><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><font color=3D"#888888">James</font></div>=
       </span><span><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br clear=3D"all"><div><div><span s=
       tyle=3D"border-collapse:collapse;color:rgb(136,136,136);font-size:13px"><br=
       ><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif">James Mills / prologic</font><br><br><fon=
       t face=3D"arial, sans-serif"></font><font face=3D"'courier new', monospace"=
       >E:&nbsp;<a href=3D"mailto:prologic@shortcircuit.net.au" style=3D"color:rgb=
       (0,0,204)" target=3D"_blank">prologic@shortcircuit.net.au</a></font></span>=
       <div><span style=3D"font-family:'courier new',monospace;color:rgb(136,136,1=
       36);font-size:13px">W:&nbsp;</span><a href=3D"http://prologic.shortcircuit.=
       net.au" style=3D"font-family:'courier new',monospace;font-size:13px;color:r=
       gb(0,0,204)" target=3D"_blank">prologic.shortcircuit.net.au</a><br></div></=
       div></div>
       </div></span></div>
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