From: "Gopher-Project" <gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org>
Date: Fri Dec 19 06:46:25 2014
Subject: Re: [gopher] cgod - a new prototype gopher daemon
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I too preferred building in a compiled language (C++) and the whitemesa
gopher was the result. However, I became interested in node.js so
implemented a gopher server in javascript running on node.js. The source
can be found on the whitemesa gopher:
gopher://whitemesa.net
with cgi, logging (with rotation), gophermap support etc. It's the
"node-gopher" item toward the bottom of the menu.
I was impressed with the node.js performance during load testing of the
server. It was a interesting exercise.
Bob C.
On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Kevin Veroneau <kevin@veroneau.net> wrote:
>
> Personally for a gopher server, I like it build in a compiled language
> like C, and for the ability to run it from inetd. Since my gopher traffic
> is rather minimum, I don't feel that I need a gopher process running all
> the time taking up resources other applications could be using.
>
> I love Python and it is my go-to language for almost anything under the
> sun. I've been a hardcore Django web dev for years now. But for a gopher
> server, I'd rather opt for minimalizm. Which is why I choose mgod over th=
e
> other gopher servers available.
>
> It is nice however that you managed to create a new Gopher server in
> Python. Maybe one day if my Gopher traffic becomes demanding enough will =
I
> move off of an inetd solution.
>
> I also use Bitbucket, and previously built a Pythonic API to their REST
> API. As noted in a previous email, I am planning on making SCM gateways f=
or
> Gopher, one of them being Mercurial. My first one will of course be my
> favorite SCM, good old classic Subversion. These gateways will be made in
> Python of course.
>
> I may consider using a Python based Gopher server if running Python apps
> ontop of it were seamless. Right now with mgod, each Python script is
> forked, so it sort of limits the sort of Gopher apps I could potential
> build.
>
> For example, it would be cool if said Gopher server was very extendable
> via custom Python apps. Similar to how Django has an Apps system and url
> dispatcher. So rather than forking, the code is already in memory. It wou=
ld
> be a perfect server for hosters like me who only host their own site. I
> could see apps being made for various gateways, and multihosting using th=
e
> classic tilde.
>
> Those are my thoughts and opinions.
>
> On December 18, 2014 1:29:59 PM MST, James Mills <
> prologic@shortcircuit.net.au> wrote:
>
>> Anyway... :) Now that' this thread has turned into all about donwloads
>> and tools...
>>
>> Let's get back on topic -- I built a new prototype gopher daemon
>> ih a high level language :)
>>
>> IHMO pygopherd is a bit old in the tooth :)
>>
>> cheers
>> James
>>
>>
>> James Mills / prologic
>>
>> E: prologic@shortcircuit.net.au
>> W: prologic.shortcircuit.net.au
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 6:19 AM, James Mills <
>> prologic@shortcircuit.net.au> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 2:21 AM, Kim Holviala <kim@holviala.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> You=E2=80=99ll get more downloads and people looking at your code if y=
ou don=E2=80=99t
>>>> force everyone to install some app called =E2=80=9Chg=E2=80=9D. What i=
s it, btw?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Git's competitor :)
>>>
>>> mercurial and git started out at about the same time
>>> but IHMO (and everyone else's) git onw out
>>> the popularity contest :)
>>>
>>> cheers
>>> James
>>>
>>>
>>> James Mills / prologic
>>>
>>> E: prologic@shortcircuit.net.au
>>> W: prologic.shortcircuit.net.au
>>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I too preferred building in a compiled language (C++) and =
the whitemesa gopher was the result. However, I became interested in node.j=
s so implemented a gopher server in javascript running on node.js. The sour=
ce can be found on the whitemesa gopher:<div><br></div><div>gopher://<a hre=
f=3D"http://whitemesa.net">whitemesa.net</a></div><div><br></div><div>with =
cgi, logging (with rotation), gophermap support etc. It's the "nod=
e-gopher" item toward the bottom of the menu.</div><div><br></div><div=
>I was impressed with the node.js performance during load testing of the se=
rver. It was a interesting exercise.</div><div><br></div><div>Bob C.<br><di=
v class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 18, 2014=
at 1:54 PM, Kevin Veroneau <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:kevin@v=
eroneau.net" target=3D"_blank">kevin@veroneau.net</a>></span> wrote:<blo=
ckquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #c=
cc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>Personally for a gopher server, I like it b=
uild in a compiled language like C, and for the ability to run it from inet=
d. Since my gopher traffic is rather minimum, I don't feel that I need=
a gopher process running all the time taking up resources other applicatio=
ns could be using.<br>
<br>
I love Python and it is my go-to language for almost anything under the sun=
. I've been a hardcore Django web dev for years now. But for a gopher=
server, I'd rather opt for minimalizm. Which is why I choose mgod ove=
r the other gopher servers available.<br>
<br>
It is nice however that you managed to create a new Gopher server in Python=
. Maybe one day if my Gopher traffic becomes demanding enough will I move =
off of an inetd solution.<br>
<br>
I also use Bitbucket, and previously built a Pythonic API to their REST API=
. As noted in a previous email, I am planning on making SCM gateways for G=
opher, one of them being Mercurial. My first one will of course be my favo=
rite SCM, good old classic Subversion. These gateways will be made in Pyth=
on of course.<br>
<br>
I may consider using a Python based Gopher server if running Python apps on=
top of it were seamless. Right now with mgod, each Python script is forked=
, so it sort of limits the sort of Gopher apps I could potential build.<br>
<br>
For example, it would be cool if said Gopher server was very extendable via=
custom Python apps. Similar to how Django has an Apps system and url disp=
atcher. So rather than forking, the code is already in memory. It would b=
e a perfect server for hosters like me who only host their own site. I cou=
ld see apps being made for various gateways, and multihosting using the cla=
ssic tilde.<br>
<br>
Those are my thoughts and opinions.<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div>=
<div class=3D"h5">On December 18, 2014 1:29:59 PM MST, James Mills <<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:prologic@shortcircuit.net.au" target=3D"_blank">prologic@shor=
tcircuit.net.au</a>> wrote:</div></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote"=
style=3D"margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);p=
adding-left:1ex"><div><div class=3D"h5">
<div dir=3D"ltr">Anyway... :) Now that' this thread has turned into all=
about donwloads and tools...<div><br></div><div>Let's get back on topi=
c -- I built a new prototype gopher daemon</div><div>ih a high level langua=
ge :)</div><div><br></div><div>IHMO pygopherd is a bit old in the tooth :)<=
/div><div><br></div><div>cheers</div><div>James<br></div></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_extra"><br clear=3D"all"><div><div><span style=3D"border-collapse=
:collapse;color:rgb(136,136,136);font-size:13px"><br><font face=3D"arial, s=
ans-serif">James Mills / prologic</font><br><br><font face=3D"arial, sans-s=
erif"></font><font face=3D"'courier new', monospace">E:=C2=A0<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:prologic@shortcircuit.net.au" style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,204)" targ=
et=3D"_blank">prologic@shortcircuit.net.au</a></font></span><div><span styl=
e=3D"font-family:'courier new',monospace;color:rgb(136,136,136);fon=
t-size:13px">W:=C2=A0</span><a href=3D"http://prologic.shortcircuit.net.au"=
style=3D"font-family:'courier new',monospace;font-size:13px;color:=
rgb(0,0,204)" target=3D"_blank">prologic.shortcircuit.net.au</a><br></div><=
/div></div>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 6:19 AM, James Mills=
<span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:prologic@shortcircuit.net.au" targ=
et=3D"_blank">prologic@shortcircuit.net.au</a>></span> wrote:<blockquote=
class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc soli=
d;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><span><br><=
div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 2:21 AM, Kim Holviala <sp=
an dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:kim@holviala.com" target=3D"_blank">ki=
m@holviala.com</a>></span> wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>You=
=E2=80=99ll get more downloads and people looking at your code if you don=
=E2=80=99t force everyone to install some app called =E2=80=9Chg=E2=80=9D. =
What is it, btw?</div><span><font color=3D"#888888"></font><div><font color=
=3D"#888888"></font></div></span></blockquote></div><br></span>Git's co=
mpetitor :)</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_e=
xtra">mercurial and git started out at about the same time</div><div class=
=3D"gmail_extra">but IHMO (and everyone else's) git onw out</div><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_extra">the popularity contest :)</div><div class=3D"gmail_ext=
ra"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">cheers</div><span><font color=3D"#=
888888"></font><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><font color=3D"#888888">James</fo=
nt></div></span><span><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br clear=3D"all"><div><di=
v><span style=3D"border-collapse:collapse;color:rgb(136,136,136);font-size:=
13px"><br><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif">James Mills / prologic</font><br=
><br><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif"></font><font face=3D"'courier new=
', monospace">E:=C2=A0<a href=3D"mailto:prologic@shortcircuit.net.au" s=
tyle=3D"color:rgb(0,0,204)" target=3D"_blank">prologic@shortcircuit.net.au<=
/a></font></span><div><span style=3D"font-family:'courier new',mono=
space;color:rgb(136,136,136);font-size:13px">W:=C2=A0</span><a href=3D"http=
://prologic.shortcircuit.net.au" style=3D"font-family:'courier new'=
,monospace;font-size:13px;color:rgb(0,0,204)" target=3D"_blank">prologic.sh=
ortcircuit.net.au</a><br></div></div></div>
</div></span></div>
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