From: "Gopher-Project" <gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org>
Date: Tue Jan 5 04:49:15 2016
Subject: Re: [gopher] New desktop GUI Gopher Client (Java) in development
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sdl... yes good route.. the amiga os4 fellas will probably do a port if you=
use this library as it is running on AmigaOS 4.1.6+
From: kim@holviala.com
Date: Tue=2C 5 Jan 2016 05:35:43 +0200
To: gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org
Subject: Re: [gopher] New desktop GUI Gopher Client (Java) in development
Having being a sysadmin for living I absolutely *hate* anything Java-relate=
d... but I agree that in this gopher market situation :D it's probably the =
best bet (SDL/C being the other possibility but with absolutely no native c=
ontrols).
I can help with converting the Java shi^W app to a proper Mac .app bundle (=
icon in Dock etc). Macs are happy if you just have a bigg'ish app icon like=
128x128=2C rest of the bundle is just a dir and a couple of metadata files=
.
- Kim
On 05 Jan 2016=2C at 05:17=2C barana . <barana24@hotmail.com> wrote:ill do =
some testing on debian ppc!..if youre not into making bloatware.
> Date: Mon=2C 4 Jan 2016 19:57:52 -0700
> From: kevin@veroneau.net
> To: gopher4all@fastmail.com=3B gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org
> Subject: Re: [gopher] New desktop GUI Gopher Client (Java) in development
>=20
> Great to hear that a modern desktop Gopher client is in development. Loo=
ks great so far. I can be your Linux gopherpig for testing it out on the L=
inux desktop. I use Linux both at home(Debian) and at work(RHEL6). My wor=
k actively uses Java for our Web development=2C so the JDK is naturally alr=
eady installed. I currently use OverbiteFF on my desktop systems to browse=
and search gopherspace.
>=20
> Best Regards=2C
> Kevin Veroneau
>=20
> Original Message =20
> From:gopher4all@fastmail.com
> Sent:January 4=2C 2016 7:50 PM
> To:gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org
> Subject:[gopher] New desktop GUI Gopher Client (Java) in development
>=20
> Hi all=2C
>=20
> I'm new here=2C this is my first post. Cameron (Floodgap) pointed me to
> here. I had no idea there was a mailing list like this=2C so I am not up
> to date on Gopher developments by the community.
>=20
> I've been obsessed by the Gopher protocol for about a year now and
> wanted to learn developing JavaFX apps in Java=2C so that was a good
> combination. Therefore=2C I've stared working on a Gopher GUI client.
>=20
> I've posted an early screenshot on Twitter:
> https://twitter.com/vintzend/status/683710791271497728 (yes I should
> have posted it on my gopherspace too=2C will do soon). Note that I didn't
> spend much time on the layout out yet=2C I first want the thing to be
> stable.
>=20
> Right now the GUI-stuff works (tabs=2C back/next....) and I am adding
> support for more and more Gopher items (right now menu and text files
> are working)=2C I plan to add as much gopher types as I can. Other
> features that I've planned are good bookmark management=2C keeping histor=
y
> and I'll do my best to make it highly configurable.
>=20
> I know Java is not popular on the desktop anymore=2C but I believe it'll
> be possible to release executables for Windows and Mac (not sure of
> Linux)=2C not really looked into that yet. I plan to release the source o=
n
> GitHub=2C once I have ironed out some bugs.
>=20
> Let me know if you have ideas for new features or want to share your
> opinion.
>=20
> Kind regards from The Netherlands=2C
> Vincent
>=20
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<body class=3D'hmmessage'><div dir=3D'ltr'>sdl... yes good route.. the amig=
a os4 fellas will probably do a port if you use this library as it is runni=
ng on AmigaOS 4.1.6+<br><br><div><hr id=3D"stopSpelling">From: kim@holviala=
.com<br>Date: Tue=2C 5 Jan 2016 05:35:43 +0200<br>To: gopher-project@lists.=
alioth.debian.org<br>Subject: Re: [gopher] New desktop GUI Gopher Client (J=
ava) in development<br><br><div>Having being a sysadmin for living I absolu=
tely *hate* anything Java-related... but I agree that in this gopher market=
situation :D it's probably the best bet (SDL/C being the other possibility=
but with absolutely no native controls).</div><div><br></div><div>I can he=
lp with converting the Java shi^W app to a proper Mac .app bundle (icon in =
Dock etc). Macs are happy if you just have a bigg'ish app icon like 128x128=
=2C rest of the bundle is just a dir and a couple of metadata files.</div><=
div><br></div><div><br></div><div>- Kim</div><div><br></div><div><br></div>=
<div><br></div><br><div><blockquote><div>On 05 Jan 2016=2C at 05:17=2C bara=
na . <=3B<a href=3D"mailto:barana24@hotmail.com">barana24@hotmail.com</a>=
>=3B wrote:</div><br class=3D"ecxApple-interchange-newline"><div><div dir=
=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family:Calibri=3Bfont-size:16px=3Bfont-style:normal=
=3Bfont-variant:normal=3Bfont-weight:normal=3Bletter-spacing:normal=3Btext-=
align:start=3Btext-indent:0px=3Btext-transform:none=3Bwhite-space:normal=3B=
word-spacing:0px=3B">ill do some testing on debian ppc!..if youre not into =
making bloatware.<div><br><div>>=3B Date: Mon=2C 4 Jan 2016 19:57:52 -070=
0<br>>=3B From:<span class=3D"ecxApple-converted-space"> =3B</span><a=
href=3D"mailto:kevin@veroneau.net">kevin@veroneau.net</a><br>>=3B To:<sp=
an class=3D"ecxApple-converted-space"> =3B</span><a href=3D"mailto:goph=
er4all@fastmail.com">gopher4all@fastmail.com</a>=3B<span class=3D"ecxApple-=
converted-space"> =3B</span><a href=3D"mailto:gopher-project@lists.alio=
th.debian.org">gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org</a><br>>=3B Subject=
: Re: [gopher] New desktop GUI Gopher Client (Java) in development<br>>=
=3B<span class=3D"ecxApple-converted-space"> =3B</span><br>>=3B Great=
to hear that a modern desktop Gopher client is in development.  =3BLoo=
ks great so far.  =3BI can be your Linux gopherpig for testing it out o=
n the Linux desktop.  =3BI use Linux both at home(Debian) and at work(R=
HEL6).  =3BMy work actively uses Java for our Web development=2C so the=
JDK is naturally already installed.  =3BI currently use OverbiteFF on =
my desktop systems to browse and search gopherspace.<br>>=3B<span class=
=3D"ecxApple-converted-space"> =3B</span><br>>=3B Best Regards=2C<br>=
>=3B  =3B Kevin Veroneau<br>>=3B<span class=3D"ecxApple-converted-s=
pace"> =3B</span><br>>=3B  =3B Original Message  =3B<br>>=
=3B From:gopher4all@<a href=3D"http://fastmail.com/" target=3D"_blank">fast=
mail.com</a><br>>=3B Sent:January 4=2C 2016 7:50 PM<br>>=3B To:gopher-<=
a href=3D"mailto:project@lists.alioth.debian.org">project@lists.alioth.debi=
an.org</a><br>>=3B Subject:[gopher] New desktop GUI Gopher Client (Java) =
in development<br>>=3B<span class=3D"ecxApple-converted-space"> =3B</=
span><br>>=3B Hi all=2C<br>>=3B<span class=3D"ecxApple-converted-space"=
> =3B</span><br>>=3B I'm new here=2C this is my first post. Cameron (=
Floodgap) pointed me to<br>>=3B here. I had no idea there was a mailing l=
ist like this=2C so I am not up<br>>=3B to date on Gopher developments by=
the community.<br>>=3B<span class=3D"ecxApple-converted-space"> =3B<=
/span><br>>=3B I've been obsessed by the Gopher protocol for about a year=
now and<br>>=3B wanted to learn developing JavaFX apps in Java=2C so tha=
t was a good<br>>=3B combination. Therefore=2C I've stared working on a G=
opher GUI client.<br>>=3B<span class=3D"ecxApple-converted-space"> =
=3B</span><br>>=3B I've posted an early screenshot on Twitter:<br>>=3B<=
span class=3D"ecxApple-converted-space"> =3B</span><a href=3D"https://t=
witter.com/vintzend/status/683710791271497728" target=3D"_blank">https://tw=
itter.com/vintzend/status/683710791271497728</a><span class=3D"ecxApple-con=
verted-space"> =3B</span>(yes I should<br>>=3B have posted it on my g=
opherspace too=2C will do soon). Note that I didn't<br>>=3B spend much ti=
me on the layout out yet=2C I first want the thing to be<br>>=3B stable.<=
br>>=3B<span class=3D"ecxApple-converted-space"> =3B</span><br>>=3B=
Right now the GUI-stuff works (tabs=2C back/next....) and I am adding<br>&=
gt=3B support for more and more Gopher items (right now menu and text files=
<br>>=3B are working)=2C I plan to add as much gopher types as I can. Oth=
er<br>>=3B features that I've planned are good bookmark management=2C kee=
ping history<br>>=3B and I'll do my best to make it highly configurable.<=
br>>=3B<span class=3D"ecxApple-converted-space"> =3B</span><br>>=3B=
I know Java is not popular on the desktop anymore=2C but I believe it'll<b=
r>>=3B be possible to release executables for Windows and Mac (not sure o=
f<br>>=3B Linux)=2C not really looked into that yet. I plan to release th=
e source on<br>>=3B GitHub=2C once I have ironed out some bugs.<br>>=3B=
<span class=3D"ecxApple-converted-space"> =3B</span><br>>=3B Let me k=
now if you have ideas for new features or want to share your<br>>=3B opin=
ion.<br>>=3B<span class=3D"ecxApple-converted-space"> =3B</span><br>&=
gt=3B Kind regards from The Netherlands=2C<br>>=3B Vincent<br>>=3B<span=
class=3D"ecxApple-converted-space"> =3B</span><br>>=3B _____________=
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