jiangjun: My friend who knows Chinese but no computer stuff was loosely translating your Chinese language phost for me! If I understand correctly, you figured out to put printf "export LANG='en_US.UTF-8'\n" >> ~/.profile to see UTF-8 on SDF right? But my shell is just ksh so I'm not sure if that's the same thing you are doing. Anyway, I would like to learn enough to talk with other damgud cyberchatters whose lingua franca is Chinese in Chinese, and maybe find some other lisp programmers. Did you participate in OCC23 yourself? Thank you for your computing autobiography. I hope you enjoy using gentoo, I'm about to put it on a boxen myself though I normally use openbsd. gopher://gopher.linkerror.com also often uses gentoo I think. If anyone else also speaks Chinese and likes old computers, especially LISP I would like to write phosts and talk some time!