You choose your level of involvement. (Tyler Durden) In the beginning (or pretty close to it) was the killfile. In the early days of the commercial internet, prior to the HTML takeover, if you could not maintain proper manners in your postings or abused system resources you would find yourself killfiled or unsubscribed in order to keep a forum usable, and that would be that. Glorious in its simplicity, the killfile filtered out users, forums, etc. that you didn't want to be exposed to. When you *plonked* someone they could carry on with whatever foolishness they were on about and you could go on reading the same newsfroups without a care in the world. You didn't have to run away, and neither did they - it was efficient. And significantly, it was fair to everyone involved. But there was another idea in there that American society at the least seems to have lost its grip on, an /important/ idea I think. If you don't want to experience something, you are responsible for not going to where that is found. Avoid the alt.sex.{whatever} hierarchy if you're offended by it. Avoid political groups or killfile the posters whose views deeply offend you if you can't maintain a civil discussion with them. Don't visit headshops or the porn store with the movie booths in the back, you won't see water bongs, dildos, or hear someone spanking it like they just discovered masturbation in the booth next to yours. You won't encounter Barnacle Bill the Sailor. But if you do go, you don't get to blame someone else for your being offended by what you find there. You have the right to circumscribe the range of what you will experience but you don't thereby have the right to circumscribe anyone else's experiences or discussions. If you can't hack the discussion that's underway or you can't control your reactions and responses, you are responsible for taking yourself out of the loop so others can carry on. If you are abusive to individuals or systems' resources you might find yourself banned entirely from moderated groups. The ideologically decriminalized space. Now, carry that idea one step further to the group level. If you have a variety of pubnixes (pubnices? nah.) with various levels of ideological decriminalization, they can then decide to what degree they want to connect with other pubnixes. They can connect more with the pubnixes that are close enough in 'limits' and connect less with those that are 'woah, Nelly' for them in terms of politics, or racy content, or grammar enforcement. (I've got your Oxford Comma for you right /here/ buddy!) The beauty of the killfile carried out to a logical extension, if not conclusion. Come sweet Death One last caress NO CARRIER