Almost nobody's competent, Paul. It's enough to make you cry to see how bad most people are at their jobs. If you can do a half-assed job of anything, you're a one-eyed man in the kingdom of the blind. (Kurt Vonnegut) ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: A brief (?) response to A Gopher Hole of Verisimilitudes on the subject of impostor syndrome from 5 March[0] follows. That post claims that impostor syndrome is "most often felt by real imposters" and "most often used as an excuse to avoid improving oneself...". No evidence for either 'most' is provided in the face of serious academic study and reports from well-known individuals with solid reputations in their fields that they have experienced it. Is it possible that posting was in response to incompetent individuals claiming that they in fact suffer from impostor syndrome? Many things are possible and folks will claim any damned thing if you let them. However I can't say as I've experienced even one person claiming to have impostor syndrome as a cover for actual incompetence. Perhaps I need to get out more. In fact I'm sure I do need to get out more for a variety of other reasons. But back to that thesis - which appears to be that if you're claiming to have experienced impostor syndrome then you're an incompetent individual looking for "...a shield against reality and against their observations." I won't deny its existence, but have never seen even one example of it. I was taught to try to give as much credit to an opposing viewpoint as possible, to take the most charitable view of what's presented. What is offered here seems to be one individual's anecdotes of an at least uncommon situation that appears to make little sense. If you are claiming to have impostor syndrome one of the requirements would seem to be that others behave as if you are competent - the syndrome is /defined/ by being accepted as competent but having serious feelings that one is not. Thus if one is being accused of incompetence then claiming to have impostor syndrome doesn't seem like any defense at all ... unless no one in the room knows what it is. Which doesn't really say anything about impostor syndrome or its validity. The reality of course is that everyone's knowledge no matter how vast has gaps unless their area of knowledge is surpassingly small indeed. Letting your knowledge gaps drive you to paranoia with self-doubts is impostor syndrome and seems to bear little resemblance to what the author of A Gopher Hole of Verisimilitudes describes. Similarly there are plenty of folks who do misjudge their own competence or incompetence - often significantly. The Dunning-Kruger effect[2] has a name for a reason and even people who have studied it professionally have stated that they're not immune to it, even though they're well aware of it. So plenty of people do not know they're incompetent and may come across as impostors when they are in fact just victims of general traits of human psychology. Further advice is offered that impostor syndrome is 'easily corrected' by making oneself competent through effort. If one is actually suffering from impostor syndrome - and in fact seriously underestimating one's competence - then this is terrible advice likely to drive the poor individual into a cycle of ever-greater efforts to improve in order to feel competent and drive out the feelings of insecurity that don't go away. It is like telling someone with depression they ought to just get over it - unhelpful at best and probably destructive at worst. Telling an actual impostor to improve themselves through effort seems to be gnawing at the wrong end of the problem - getting them to stop /lying/ would seem to be the best first step. I of course admit there is the possibility of something here that I'm just not understanding. 'It's an old story, 'Ryumin said. 'Something like that actually happened once; I feel sure of it. But I filed off the serial numbers and made it my own. (Bruce Sterling) [0] gopher://verisimilitudes.net:70/02022-03-07 [1] [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impostor_syndrome [2] [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect NO CARRIER