On common interests ------------------- Bongusta Overlord Logout wrote recently[1] about the interests that he, pet84rik and I share (and some of them are even more widespread in gopherspace, making them "common interests" indeed!). Since I have been writing some relatively heavy phlogs entries lately (and, rest assured, have more to come), I thought it might be nice to talk about something a bit more relaxing. When it comes to mechanical watches, fountain pens and film cameras, it's the watches that I know the most about and own the most of. I was happy to read that Logout has a couple of Indian watches, because I'm 90% sure I know which watches he's talking about, and while I haven't actually ever seen any in the flesh, I do love them. The thing about mechanical watches it that from a purely utilitarian perspective they have been totally obsolete for decades. What I'm about to say will not be news to other watch nerds reading, but to clue in the "normal people" reading who may have literally never thought about this, it would be a mistake to think that a $10,000 luxury Swiss mechanical watch by Rolex or the like must have *some* kind of technical superiority to a $15 Casio watch, but the simple fact of the matter is, that with the exception of water resistance in some cases, it straight up doesn't. The best mechanical watches in the world are less accurate, less robust and more maintenance intensive than all but the very cheapest quartz watches. This means that, with a few exceptions, the only way for a company to survive selling mechanical watches in 201X is to aim hard for the luxury end of the market and play up big time on ideas like heritage, tradition, exclusivity, the appeal of having a family heirloom to pass down, etc. The mainstream modern mechanical watch world is rife with snobishness and conspicuous consumption. As anybody who has read much of my phlog might suspect, all of this is tremendously off-putting to me. But I still really like mechanical watches for the mechanical wonders that they are, and for the fact that they are the end product of a centuries long process of human ingenuity trying to solve a problem that, as much as we take it for granted today, is actually not at all straightforward. The only real way to actualise this fascination with the things without spending a lot of money or losing all self respect by buying into the snobby marketing bullshit is to collect vintage watches from the days when mechanical watches were not just for the elite but also for the everyman. I like to go even further and I am mostly interested in watches which are explicitly utilitarian and not at all fancy. There is no shortage of these coming from either developing nations or former communist regimes - times and places in history where nations with large populations and not a lot of hard cash have been trying hard to industrialise. This leads to watches which are cheap to make, easy to repair, relatively robust and "accurate enough" for the working class to get through their day. No exclusive brand names, no designed obsolesence, no refusal to sell spare parts to third-parties so you can gouge your customers on repair costs. Honest, humble tools for the masses which can be appreciated for what they are. This attitude leads to things like the USSR's Podeba, the DDR's Ruhla, China's myriad Tongjis and, of course, India's HMTs, which I strongly suspect Logout has two of. Hindustani Machine Tools (HMT) licensed the design for a particularly simple hand-winding watch with no special features from Japanese mechanical watch giant Citizen, sometime in the late 60s, I think, or perhaps very early 70s. It was a pretty protracted affair, the Indians sent a bunch of people over to Japan for a a year or so, to go through an intensive training program including tours of Citizen's factories, before bringing them home to set up a factory of their own. Citizen then sent some Japanese engineers over to India to supervise the early stages of production and once things were running smoothly they went back to Japan and left HMT to it. HMT then continued to churn out home-grown versions of this humble, unremarkable but perfectly adequate Japanese watch, without any technological changes whatsoever, up until *very* recently (I think the HMT watch factory only shut down sometime in the last 2 or 3 years?). I love stuff like this, it's like some kind of living technological time capsule, and it's so unadulterated. These are definitely not watches designed primarily to solve the problem of convincing last season's customers to buy another watch even though their current one still works. This is honest tech. Tell me, Logout, is one of them a HMT Pilot? I am not super big into fountain pens. I "caught" that interest off a friend many years ago, who was made on them and owned probably hundreds. Even then I was already at the stage where I was wanting to make a serious effort to simplify and minimise my life, and actively avoid getting involved in hobbies that would involve turning piles of money into piles of *things* I would then have to care for and lug all around the world with me. So I bought a small number of vintage Chinese pens to satisfy my keen interest in Chinese industrial history (a side-effect of the watches), and one modern pen which is the only one I really use on a regular basis. It's a TWSBI Eco, and I endorse it as a nice pen for somebody who wants to use a fountain pen without becoming too much of a "fountain pen person". It avoids most of the pain and inconvenience that comes with fountain pen use. It has a *huge* ink capacity, in terms of mL of ink held per dollar the pen costs I think it leads the market but a very comfortable margin, but could be wrong. This means you don't have to worry about filling it up every other day. If you don't write *that* much, like me, you can go for months on one fill. Because the body of the pen is clear (it's a "demonstrator", in the lingo), you are never taken by surprise when you run out of ink, usually you have known for days that this was coming so you can be ready. And because it's a piston filler you don't need any extra nonsense to fill it up, you just need a bottle of ink you can stick the thing in and you're good to go (as opposed to, say, a pen you need to refill with a pipette). If you buy your ink in recyclable glass or plastic bottles, then it is a zero-waste pen-for-life, unlike pens which use little disposable cartridges ("converters" I think these are called). I think it hits a very nice sweetspot in design space for people who are looking to get rid of disposable, low-quality stuff in their life but don't want to replace it with inconvenience and hassle. As for cameras, well. I think my problem is that I'm into old cameras more so than I am into photography. I definitely do enjoy photography, and sometimes get quite into it, but I'd be lying if I said I was passionate about it. I got into photography purely so I had a chance to play around with old cameras so I could learn about and appreciate them as machines. This happened when I learned how high speed shutters work. When you take a photo with a shutter speed of 1/60th of a second on a mechanical camera, what happens is that one shutter curtain flies open "very quickly", a timer (mechanical or electrical, depending upon vitage) runs for 1/60th of a second, and then a second shutter curtain flies closed "very quickly", and the film is exposed to the scene for 1/60th of a second plus two times "very quickly", which is close enough to 1/60s for all practical purposes. Now, what if you want an exposure time of 1/1000th or even 1/2000th of a second? That is actually even less time than "very quickly", so you can't open one curtain, wait for it to complete and then close the second one. So you actually release the curtain which covers up film immediately after you release the curtain which exposes the film! They chase each other, and even though it takes more than 1/1000s for either curtain to fully traverse the film, no actual individual *part* of the film is exposed for more than 1/1000s. As a side effect, when you photograph something moving very fast (like a race car) this way, you get a characteristic distortion because the scene changes faster than the narrow exposure window wipes its way across the film. I had never thought deeply about cameras or photography before in my life when I read about this, and I immediately realised "holy shit, this is *actually* interesting", not artistically but technically. I did more reading and learned that most of the technical side of photography (e.g. the exposure triangle) is *blindingly obvious* and very intuitive once you understand how the camera works mechanically. So I thought maybe I'd try this out. I have a Canon AE-1, which is no way a "cool" camera, it's a camera hardcore film nerds groan at because it has become such a terribly hip and trendy camera for millenials getting into film for the first time in order to be "retro". Which I suppose is a charge I can't *fully* dodge, although I am old enough to have briefly used film unironically in the pre-digital days. Anyway, I didn't buy it to be trendy, but bought it rather after obsessively watching second hand camera listings online for weeks and realising that somebody who obviously didn't know any better was selling this one for well under half the average market value. I have now got a decent range of lenses to use with it (50mm f1.8, 28mm f2.8 and 135mm f3.x, all "NewFD" lenses which are lighter than the old ones with the nice chrome locking rings), and as such I'm somewhat invested in the FD mount. If I ever had the chance to upgrade at a good price to an A-1, an FT-D or an EF-1 I suspect I probably would. But I'm not actively looking for any of these, because after a few years of happily snapping away on the thing I am at the point where my interest is waning, and a new body would probably only change that temporarily. Phew! That's it from me, I think, but I will close with a request to Logout for more information on his non-licensed radio hobbies. I am a shortwave DXer, but nothing more right now. Logout, you mentioned that you do stuff on PMR446. I have had a cheap pair of Motorola PMR446 walkie talkies on my "to maybe buy" list for ages, but mostly just to use for their intended use as walkie talkies when e.g. camping or hiking. I had no idea there were interesting hobby things to do with that kind of radio, like trying to make long-distance contacts. I would love to hear more about this, if you don't mind. Yes, I could just Google it, but then, I could just Google everything you crazy Gopher folk talk about. It's nicer, I think, to learn about this kind of thing through talking to people. [1] gopher://i-logout.cz:70/0/en/phlog/01-2018-phlog.txt