Okay, this is a weird melange of topics, but here goes... --------- I've been working on a batch script for a little while now that really stumped me. I've figured out the problem, but I don't understand why it exists. Maybe one of you does. In a batch file, you can insert a label at any point by putting a colon in front of it. You might use that label as a marker for the beginning of a section that you would regularly return to like a menu, or as the marker for the beginning of a subroutine. Here's the weird part. Say I have a label called :read-a-file If I want to simply "go to" that section, the syntax does not include the colon goto read-a-file But if I want to call read-a-file as a subroutine, and return to my original point afterwards[1], the syntax includes the colon call :read-a-file Why?????? I didn't realize the difference until today. I was using goto with the colon like this goto :read-a-file This was throwing me into crazy outcomes and making me tear out my hair! Is there any good reason for the syntactical difference or do I just have to accept it as the arbitrary grammar of the command shell interpreter? ----------- I notice that jebug29 over at SDF is the inadvertant inventor of a Gopher Chat(tm) system. He created a comment section for his phlog, which requires you to enter your name along with your comment[2]. When people leave comments, he replies. It's completely like a chatroom! I suspect that it would be a short distance to associating a person's ip address and their name to make it so they didn't have to re-enter their name with each comment. Then it would be completely chat like. ----------- You can now browse Gemini with old hardware over at portal.mozz.us. I asked M. Lazar if he could make the portal available over http so that I could read Gemlogs on my Bold 9900 -- and he did it! I love it and I'm not worried about being mitm'd by rogue Gemlog hijackers!!! [1] if the label indicates the beginning of a subroutine, the subroutine terminates with an EXIT /B [2] gopher://sdf.org/1/users/jebug29/cgi-bin/read_comments.cgi