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       #Post#: 46127--------------------------------------------------
       I Found This Info
       By: Linda Date: June 16, 2024, 9:00 am
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       A little bit about crawl spaces.
       How Are Crawl Spaces Bad
       Believe it or not, crawl spaces are a decent option for seeking
       shelter during a tornado. However, it is not the most
       recommended option. Because a crawl space is an area between the
       ground and bottom floor of your home, there is a lot of
       potentials for damage to be done and this could reduce your
       safety. Keep in mind that the plumbing and electrical that are
       connected below that first layer of your home are often exposed.
       If damage to the home occurs, these pipes could break and cause
       you to harm if you are in the crawl space.
       #Post#: 46134--------------------------------------------------
       Re: I Found This Info
       By: Moira Date: June 17, 2024, 5:01 am
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       HELP I Am moving tomorrow [emoji15][emoji12]
       I read a similar article too Linda ! We do have electrical lines
       from one end of the granny flat and they do run underneath ! WE
       also have the plumbing thing at the back of the unit !!
       Today the big black and white cow got out from under the
       electric fence ... somehow and ended up trying to eat my plants
       at the front here before we spied her just as it was getting
       dark !!!!!!!!!! John went out with the brush to shooooo her away
       but Dan was not home so he could not do much re: the electric
       fence ! Hence the cow is still out at almost 10PM. She has had a
       go at chewing my baby leek plants and potato plants in big pots
       at the end of the granny flat !
       I rang Dan when he got home and he said ................ " She
       is ready for the knackers yard so Shoot her "  !!!! The dogs did
       absobloodylutely NOTHING to help !
       Must be bed time now so I will probably be awake listening
       .................. !!!! Bugger the Tornado it will be the cow
       keeping me awake !!!!!!!!
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       Re: I Found This Info
       By: Linda Date: June 17, 2024, 10:26 am
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       OH MY, all you needed was for the cow to get loose and eat your
       pretty things..............DARN!!  [emoji20]
       Whenever I hear about crawl spaces it makes me think about the
       serial killer here way back in the 70's or thereabouts.  He had
       a home in Chicago and it had a crawl space and it's where he
       buried the bodies of the young men he killed.   I think you'd
       better stay out of  your crawl space, it doesn't sounds safe to
       me.
       Good luck with all of it Moira!  [emoji171]
       I was reading that a bathtub is a good place to be in a tornado
       but I know you don't have one...........does Dan?  Even if he
       did, you couldn't all fit in it. Does Dan have a crawl space
       under his house?
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       Re: I Found This Info
       By: DarienJ Date: June 18, 2024, 3:01 am
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       I have absobloodylutely no idea what you are talking about, so I
       will stay out of it.
       As for the cow escaping, I would be furious!!! I've said it
       before and I'll say it agin, you have a lot more patience than I
       do!!!!
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       Re: I Found This Info
       By: Moira Date: June 18, 2024, 4:17 am
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       I was thinking last night and to my mind a Crawl space was
       always a space under the roof ... as our RAF houses in my youth
       always had an attic to keep your luggage and stuff and that is
       where you were suppose to crawl to get inside as the roof was
       low !!!!!!!! The RAF houses had big lofts and you usually had a
       ladder or a rope ladder to get up into them !!!!!!!! We used to
       play in one or two !!
       Your Crawl Space killer is a horrible story Linda ! Did he get
       caught and hanged ??????????? I Hope so !
       Yes Dan and Bonnie do have a bathtub in their private bathroom.
       Greta's favourite place !   She hates showers ! NO crawl space
       under Dan's house either ... as far as I can see !
       THE COW is still out and doing its own thing eating all the
       fresh grass ............ Right by my car is a pile of cow sh**
       !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Good job I saw it before I got into the
       car this morning to go shopping !
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       Re: I Found This Info
       By: Linda Date: June 18, 2024, 2:12 pm
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       The space under the roof would be called an attic here.  Yes,
       John Wayne Gacy was caught and I think maybe electrocuted.  He
       lived in Waterloo before moving to Chicago and he worked here at
       a Kentucky Fried Chicken, about 3 blocks from our house.  He
       only murdered young men but quite a few of them I fear.  He was
       a horrible man.
       Darien is right, you DO have more patience than I would have.
       The cow would kind of be my last straw I think.  I keep thinking
       of all of that cow POOP all over the place.  HELP!
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       Re: I Found This Info
       By: DarienJ Date: June 18, 2024, 3:55 pm
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       What an absolute psychopath!!!! All those poor young men, surely
       it would have smelled [emoji848] Glad he was caught in the end,
       justice for the young men and their families.
       I know that it's Dans property, but surely he can keep the cows
       in for you. I really don't think he does enough for you and John
       at times.
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       Re: I Found This Info
       By: Moira Date: June 19, 2024, 4:37 am
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       I will have to look up the name of that psychopath as I have
       never heard of it :)
       The cow went back behind the electric fence or maybe Dan got up
       in the early morning and put it back before I got up !!!!!!!!!
       IT IS back behind the fence but it IS a big cow and apparently
       they do not feel the electric fence as badly as a younger cow
       would !!!!!!!!!
       SO now you learn something about cows :))))))))))))))))))))))
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       Re: I Found This Info
       By: DarienJ Date: June 19, 2024, 4:29 pm
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       That makes sense I suppose as the older they the more fat they
       develop and their hide thickens. Hopefully it will stay in place
       and not escape again. The livestock is Dan's responsibility and
       if you had been a neighbour, Dan would have had to pay
       compensation for any damage caused!!!!!
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       Re: I Found This Info
       By: Moira Date: June 20, 2024, 4:56 am
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       I agree Darien but Dan is bothered about Greenfern ATM so I will
       not hassle him !
       According to John now almost 10PM and 3 of the cows are out so
       methinks maybe the electric fence is not even working !!! The
       end road gates to the main house are closed so they can not go
       far...... and I have my vegies and plants safely closed off ! I
       THINK !
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