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Re: Whats on your bench today
By: Chainsawrepair Date: July 31, 2014, 9:52 pm
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Look at Rons 2100 with the filter intake being aluminum . This
one is white plastic. Green filter slides over it and just a
hose clamp around filter base to white filter intake.
#Post#: 45186--------------------------------------------------
Re: Whats on your bench today
By: dutchsawdoctor Date: August 23, 2014, 1:32 pm
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Worked on this 650VA runs on it own fuel now, need more carb.
work
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Last week i did a test runn on the Teles SW3
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Re: Whats on your bench today
By: weimedog Date: August 27, 2014, 8:58 am
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Re: Whats on your bench today
By: Chainsawrepair Date: August 27, 2014, 4:14 pm
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Havent had a chance to even look at a saw since last week. Been
battling my envoy and then my sons car sunfire for trip last
sat. Had to leave the envoy and take the monte along with his
car. :-X
Today this was what I had been fighting and figured out today
after lots and lots of trouble shooting. new ignition, cleaning
grounds, removing center console to get to more grounds, hot and
grounds into fuse box under hood etc etc.
I lost all 6 gauges, odometer and the info center on the IPC.
It had went dead asleep after searching many hours. Found a
service bulletin dated from 03. Software update at dealer only
July 02 and newer. Mine was built in June 2001 and is 2002.
Dealer only deal. I figured out away around it. Tried out a 03
and 04 IPC from a junkyard.
#Post#: 45388--------------------------------------------------
Re: Whats on your bench today
By: aclarke Date: August 27, 2014, 5:55 pm
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Kev, you're a brave man!! That kinda chit drives me crazy,
don't know if I would have the patience. So do you need to have
the computer re flashed in addition to the new cluster display?
Adam
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Re: Whats on your bench today
By: Gatekeeper Date: August 27, 2014, 6:08 pm
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That stuff is something I'll pay someone for.
Got my 046 on the bench again. Slipped timing for the 3rd time.
I need to put a key back in it I guess.
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Re: Whats on your bench today
By: Chainsawrepair Date: August 27, 2014, 6:42 pm
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If I would have used my old cluster I would have had to have
dealer do the update.
Told my wife I would dance like a leprechaun if my idea works.
Well I need some beer to dance like a leprechaun. :yes:
Guys if you have a older 02 before July 02 like mine it is the
software updated needed I posted above or cluster gone alseep
bad etc.
I found a junkyard that would let me try a 2004 xl IPC and I
heard it wake when plugged in. Only thing the fuel gauge needed
the $10 part. I ask if they had another one. They said a 2003
but not a xl. I said it dont matter IMO would you have them pull
it and let me try it. They did and it sounded and woke just like
the 04 one and all the gauges , odometer and info ceter all
work.
Just so you guys know 02 03 04 work in 02 and best if July 02
and after for newest software. Unless you want to go to dealer
for the updates and hope it wakes up.
Here is some stuff I had found that made me try above.
If I am reading this right. If I would install a 03 or later
IPC or a 02 built after July. I wouldnt have to do the
reprogram on mine if that is the problem. Am I thinking right
on this below.
So will a 03 plug and play on my 02 built 06/01? Would it
matter if from trailblazer?
I know roadie or someone helped me do this updating my heater
module from 02 to 03 updated one.
Service Procedure
Some vehicles involved in this customer satisfaction program may
have had their instrument panel cluster (IPC) replaced prior to
this program. As a result, the replacement cluster may not need
to be reprogrammed.
To determine whether the IPC in the vehicle requires
reprogramming, the following procedure must be performed.
Important: The Tech 2 diagnostic tool must be updated with
software version 8.0, released July 2002, or newer, in order to
perform the reprogramming.
Nobody could tell me if the 03-04 would work so I took the
chance today.
Might need a few in me to do my Leprechaun Dance I promised if
my idea fixed the envoy.
(HTM) http://youtu.be/F2RpJ_5fjSA
Dealer would have had to do this.
Instrument Panel Cluster (IPC) Gauges Read Zero at Times, Gauges
Inoperative at Times (Reprogram IPC) #02-08-49-004A - (Nov 1,
2002)
Instrument Panel Cluster (IPC) Gauges Read Zero at Times, Gauges
Inoperative at Times (Reprogram IPC)
2002 Chevrolet TrailBlazer, TrailBlazer EXT
2002 GMC Envoy, Envoy XL
2002 Oldsmobile Bravada
This bulletin is being revised to change the service procedure.
Please discard Corporate Bulletin Number 02-08-49-004 (Section
08 -- Body and Accessories).
Condition
Some customers may comment that at times all the IPC gauges are
inoperative or read zero at times.
Cause
The IPC cluster module receives information to position the
gauges when the key is turned from OFF to ON/START. Random
electrical interference with this data information on the serial
data line may interrupt the receipt of the information by the
IPC. When the IPC data information signal is compromised, the
IPC will set the gauges to zero for that complete ignition
cycle. The gauges may work properly on the next ignition cycle,
if the ignition was off for approximately five minutes prior to
the next ignition cycle.
Diagnostic Aid
With the Tech 2®, determine the IPC software part number using
the following procedure.
1. Connect the Tech 2 to the vehicle.
2. Power up the Tech 2.
3. From the main menu, Press Enter.
4. Select F0: Diagnostics.
5. Select the correct model year.
6. Select: Ld Trk.
7. Select F1: Body
8. Select the proper vehicle line
9. Select the proper name plate.
10. Select the HVAC type.
11. Select Instrument Panel Cluster.
12. Select F4: ID Information.
13. Select F1: Module Information 2
14. If the IPC software part number is 09363270 or 15085477,
re-program the IPC.
Correction
1. Re-Program the IPC following normal SPS procedures (TIS
Version 8.0 released July 2002, or newer).
2. Clear all codes.
3. Disconnect the Tech 2 and return the vehicle to the
customer.
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Re: Whats on your bench today
By: Al Smith Date: August 27, 2014, 7:09 pm
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I have a day off tomorrow so it's an Echo hedge trimmer and two
Poulan s-25's for carb rebuilds .I should have got on them a
couple years back .
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Re: Whats on your bench today
By: Cut4fun Date: August 28, 2014, 7:31 am
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[quote author=aclarke link=topic=1732.msg45388#msg45388
date=1409180107]
Kev, you're a brave man!! That kinda chit drives me crazy,
don't know if I would have the patience. So do you need to have
the computer re flashed in addition to the new cluster display?
Adam
[/quote]
I had made it way worse till I could just get back to the
original problem. Scared the heck out of me. Had it not even
starting and everything inside flashing on off, half the stuff
inside not working lights, buttons on wheel etc.
I thought I was just going to right the ------- off.
copy paste my post
First off I lost my dash cluster gauges.
Came back from in from golf got in the envoy started it up and
no gauges came on at all . All 6 just 0 left side plus no total
mileage shown in area that shows mileage and trip miles drove
etc.
Everything worked perfect till came back in today. Checked 24
fuse and it's good.
Mileage being out too threw me a curve because I cant keep track
of mileage driven for gas.
The gear selector area isnt shown either.
How does the ignition effect this in my problem in last 2 post,
just in case?
I pulled the cluster and cleaned all the contacts on back etc
May gauges and odometer and shift indicator all came back on for
drive to work. When I left today not working again. crazy
Did anyone try cleaning connections to the under hood fuse box?
Mine had some green corrosion.
I cleaned all terminals to the fuse box under hood and pulled
the 125mega fuse thing to clean it too.
I am only making things worse. Now my 02 envoy wont start after
doing all this stuff trying to get my IP working again.
I cleaned all the terminals going into fuse box under hood. I
checked fuses and changed them just in case 22 24.
I cleaned the back of IP board etc.
I can hear things click running under hood and inside area but
no start.
I'm only making it worse and cant start to even check to see if
last fix worked.
I am at a loss to figure this out. What about the security
system? Think it has crime stopper for remote start.
Tried the remote start. Thinking security stuff. Everything
click runs under hood like it is setting start, but no start.
Even the a/c etc all come on just like it is set. Hit brake to
turn everything off without key.
I am trying to piece to threads with 2 different problems over
last 2-3 days.
Today I hook both side of batt back up after setting over nite.
When getting in I noticed entry lights didnt come on.
Then tried to start. It started.
Dash and all 6 gauges still not working, shift indicator nor the
odometer or info center area.
Noticed radio come on go off. Lights get bright then dim on
radio then dash. 4x4 shift indicator lights all light up then
off then up and then off.
So I turn off restart. Turn off restart. Make sure that was
good.
So I turn key to on but not try to start. Pull PCM B and PCM I
and the 4x4 module for 5-10mins. Turn key of reinstall all fuses
and no start again.
Can hear the clicking etc under hood area when trying to start,
but not the starter. Sounds like relay etc.
So fellows I am in way over my head on this 02 envoy xl right
now.
#Post#: 45432--------------------------------------------------
Re: Whats on your bench today
By: Cut4fun Date: August 28, 2014, 7:33 am
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Searching internet for recalls and service bulletins is what
saved me and gave me the nerve to just try newer clusters.
After I found out about the software update from July 02 and
newer.
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