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#Post#: 62354--------------------------------------------------
"Machinist thread" (please join in) Vertical Mills &a
mp; metal lathes, tool talk...ect
By: St Paul Steam Date: April 1, 2024, 9:08 pm
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This is a dedicated machinist type thread , we encourage
everyone that has an interest in machining, A skill in
machining. Or just a curiosity about machining to participate &
join in with tips, suggestion & machinist technical support &
knowledge about this art.
This should be interesting.
I myself am right now considering which Precision Mathews
vertical mill I want, it's between the PM727 & PM727V (variable
speed motor) and the PM932 much bigger and heavier & 220V
(HTM) https://www.precisionmatthews.com/product-category/millingmachines/benchmills/
Is variable speed motor much better than geared motors ?
I have been totally immersed in "blondihacks" machinist videos,
these are great for the beginner, and she has a whole series on
basic lathe operation. 😊
(HTM) https://www.youtube.com/blondihacks
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Re: Considering Precision Matthews Vertical Mill & "blo
ndihacks" machinist videos
By: RedRyder Date: April 2, 2024, 6:04 pm
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I've been told variable speed is favorable.
Don Favell had a Chaublin 102 lathe that I believe had a 3 phase
motor that he had wired to some adapter circuitry to let it run
on 115 volts giving him excellent speed control.
Regarding the Precision Matthews Vertical Mills.... they look
great but I don't know much about this equipment.
#Post#: 62374--------------------------------------------------
Re: Considering Precision Matthews Vertical Mill & "blo
ndihacks" machinist videos
By: St Paul Steam Date: April 2, 2024, 7:15 pm
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[quote author=RedRyder link=topic=7086.msg62372#msg62372
date=1712099096]
I've been told variable speed is favorable.
Don Favell had a Chaublin 102 lathe that I believe had a 3 phase
motor that he had wired to some adapter circuitry to let it run
on 115 volts giving him excellent speed control.
Regarding the Precision Matthews Vertical Mills.... they look
great but I don't know much about this equipment.
[/quote]
they are Chinese, with a few models being made in Tiawan.
American machine tools are getting much harder to find in good
condition without being worn out already, & the Chinese are
making old machines somewhat obsolete it would seem. I love my
South Bend lathe & Taig mill, but I've been outgrowing them for
a while now. I'm still looking at Facebook marketplace daily for
some lovely old American iron.
#Post#: 62376--------------------------------------------------
Re: "Machinist thread" (please join in) I'm Considerin
g Precision Matthews Vertical Mill & "blondihacks"
machinist video
By: Woe is me Date: April 2, 2024, 7:45 pm
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My two cents is this, if there is a tool that I want, and there
is two to pick from,
one is from China and the other is from Taiwan. I go with
Taiwan. Precision and quality
are better than China.
#Post#: 62378--------------------------------------------------
Re: "Machinist thread" (please join in) I'm Considerin
g Precision Matthews Vertical Mill & "blondihacks"
machinist video
By: St Paul Steam Date: April 2, 2024, 8:22 pm
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[quote author=Woe is me link=topic=7086.msg62376#msg62376
date=1712105154]
My two cents is this, if there is a tool that I want, and there
is two to pick from,
one is from China and the other is from Taiwan. I go with
Taiwan. Precision and quality
are better than China.
[/quote]
Yes, I've been told that over and over again, I honestly
originally thought there was no difference, there is a Big
difference in quality & pride of workmanship between the 2
countries.
#Post#: 62380--------------------------------------------------
Re: "Machinist thread" (please join in) I'm Considerin
g Precision Matthews Vertical Mill & "blondihacks"
machinist video
By: MasonvilleEngines Date: April 2, 2024, 8:52 pm
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Not an owner ( I went tormach) but heavily considered Precision
Mathews. More pricey than Grizzly but appear to be notch above
in quality.
#Post#: 62384--------------------------------------------------
Re: "Machinist thread" (please join in) I'm Considerin
g Precision Matthews Vertical Mill & "blondihacks"
machinist video
By: krypto31337 Date: April 2, 2024, 9:25 pm
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The thing you need to understand with the cheaper (home shop)
Asian equipment suppliers is that you are the QC inspector.
Assume nothing has been checked and you will be on the right
track. You will need to thoroughly inspect any new equipment
and make sure your supplier will work with you if you find any
problems. I bought my mill from Grizzly when they closed their
Muncy, PA store as I was able to get a good deal with a discount
and no shipping costs. PM Research in Pittsburgh would be
another almost local option for me but I don't plan on buying
anything else in the near future.
While I did some customizing to it, my mill (Taiwan) has always
worked fine and been within specifications on tolerances and
produced plenty of good parts over the years. Any issues I had
was usually from the monkey turning the knobs. I've also helped
people online diagnose problems with the exact same mill. To
their credit, when presented with a clear and sane description
of the problem Grizzly quickly sent replacement parts and that
fellow was able to fix his mill and was happy in the end. He
just had to do a little work.
Matt at PM isn't stupid and isn't afraid to offer influencers
free or really good deals on shop equipment as the advertising
is golden. Quinn got her current PM mill for free, which was
freely announced but I'm sure she bought her PM lathe and first
PM mill because she was unknown at the time.
Watch the beginning of this:
(HTM) https://youtu.be/VzWYgwVHggE
#Post#: 62385--------------------------------------------------
Re: "Machinist thread" (please join in) I'm Considerin
g Precision Matthews Vertical Mill & "blondihacks"
machinist video
By: St Paul Steam Date: April 2, 2024, 10:03 pm
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[quote author=krypto31337 link=topic=7086.msg62384#msg62384
date=1712111128]
The thing you need to understand with the cheaper (home shop)
Asian equipment suppliers is that you are the QC inspector.
Assume nothing has been checked and you will be on the right
track. You will need to thoroughly inspect any new equipment
and make sure your supplier will work with you if you find any
problems. I bought my mill from Grizzly when they closed their
Muncy, PA store as I was able to get a good deal with a discount
and no shipping costs. PM Research in Pittsburgh would be
another almost local option for me but I don't plan on buying
anything else in the near future.
While I did some customizing to it, my mill (Taiwan) has always
worked fine and been within specifications on tolerances and
produced plenty of good parts over the years. Any issues I had
was usually from the monkey turning the knobs. I've also helped
people online diagnose problems with the exact same mill. To
their credit, when presented with a clear and sane description
of the problem Grizzly quickly sent replacement parts and that
fellow was able to fix his mill and was happy in the end. He
just had to do a little work.
Matt at PM isn't stupid and isn't afraid to offer influencers
free or really good deals on shop equipment as the advertising
is golden. Quinn got her current PM mill for free, which was
freely announced but I'm sure she bought her PM lathe and first
PM mill because she was unknown at the time.
Watch the beginning of this:
(HTM) https://youtu.be/VzWYgwVHggE
[/quote]
Yes , I'm aware Quinn got her PM 728VT sent free to her, along
with the Preist column lift and tons of other stuff as well as
getting a little kick back from Amazon & who knows who else,
I've actually watched that video before. Quinn still seems to be
fairly impartial and matter of fact in her reviews. I like her
style and knowledge and the way she relays information, yes I've
seen her do things that a rookie would do IE crash her lathe
carriage & bend the gear shaft.she has over 215k subscribers so
I'm sure she's making a fulltime living from her YouTube
proceeds, if you look up her bio, she's a very intelligent and
qualified & accomplished electronic gaming tech whiz.
I just realized I've had a Grizzly 15" planer and 18" bandsaw
for over 30 yrs, yes there is some things (sheet metal work)
that is chinzy....but they have always worked. I am still a
bigger fan of American tooling, but you can't find it new much
anymore(for any price)
#Post#: 62400--------------------------------------------------
Re: "Machinist thread" (please join in) I'm Considerin
g Precision Matthews Vertical Mill & "blondihacks"
machinist video
By: Stoker Date: April 3, 2024, 12:51 pm
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Don't know for sure what your needs or thoughts are Bruce.
Second-hand Bridgeport mills are out there, and some are no
doubt in fine condition, while others are undoubtedly junk, or
near to it. You need to ask yourself if you have room for a
full-sized Knee Mill and do you have 220 service available? How
much table do you see yourself needing, and how much travel?
I've been quite happy with my Grizzly G0704 that I have added a
DRO to, but it is still just a hobbyist type bench-top mill at
the low end of the potential commercial usage range, and it
certainly does have its limitations!
Grizzly G0704:
(HTM) https://www.grizzly.com/products/grizzly-7-x-27-1-hp-mill-drill-with-stand/g0704?
#Post#: 62401--------------------------------------------------
Re: "Machinist thread" (please join in) I'm Considerin
g Precision Matthews Vertical Mill & "blondihacks"
machinist video
By: crazydoug Date: April 3, 2024, 1:07 pm
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I have owned my PM matthews 932 for 9 years. 1 reason i bought
it over a comparable Grizzly is that i live close enough to pick
it up in person. I opted to have the dro installed by the seller
and no regrets there. Dont buy it without the dro, it is worth
every cent. I have had to replace 3 minor parts over that 9
years and twice they replaced the part after the warranty period
and still never charged me.
I have built at least 2 dozen steam and hit miss model engines
on it as well as many other projects and i absolutely love it. I
had an old bridgeport offered to me for free and passed on it,
as they are always fairly worn, cumbersome, usually 3 phase, no
dro and a beast to relocate. As for being chinese, my jet lathe
is chinese and easier to find parts for than many of the old
u.s. made lathes. I also have a southbend and atlas lathes, but
my jet lathe is the one i use most.
Crazydoug
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