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##154 2022-08-08(Mon)06:08:19
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Does anyone else use the TTY?
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__[2022-08-10(Wed)23:26:34 #1554]_____________________________________
1200 baud only else too fast
__[2022-08-11(Thu)20:58:18 #1555]_____________________________________
Sure most of the time even, and also /dev/fb0 for graphics stuff.
__[2022-08-13(Sat)00:32:46 #1556]_____________________________________
#1555 said:
>Sure most of the time even, and also /dev/fb0 for graphics stuff.
What do ou mean you use /dev/fb0 for graphical stuff?
__[2022-08-13(Sat)14:45:50 #1557]_____________________________________
ofc I use, why even use graphics for anything besides javascript
in browser and games / movies?
__[2022-08-13(Sat)14:48:28 #1558]_____________________________________
#1556 you can use framebuffer pseudodevices to directly render
pixels on your screen. with simple wrapper or binding of wayland
compositor / X11 windows manager you can make simple GUI
__[2022-08-13(Sat)15:02:53 #1559]_____________________________________
#1556 Long ago (90's) I used SVGAlib to have graphics without
XFree86 under Linux 1.2.x kernels. Later on they added fbdev to
the kernel in one of the 2.x releases (can't remember which),
and I'm still using fbdev today to have graphics without Xorg.
__[2022-08-15(Mon)07:18:09 #1560]_____________________________________
#1559 do you use some custom scripts for it? share if you do pls
__[2022-08-15(Mon)20:27:47 #1561]_____________________________________
#1560 Not really, I only configured Midnight Commander to run
framebuffer-friendly programs like fim (image viewer), fbpdf2,
ffplay, and so on. A number of games work too, but sometimes only
after I fix them b/c devs only tested in Xorg.
__[2022-08-24(Wed)14:27:59 #1575]_____________________________________
Does DOS count?
__[2022-08-24(Wed)17:09:27 #1577]_____________________________________
#1575 said:
>Does DOS count?
A DOS is fine too.
__[2022-11-02(Wed)12:53:50 #1618]_____________________________________
Used to use vtty unironically a decade ago, but X is so stable
these days.
__[2022-11-02(Wed)15:06:17 #1619]_____________________________________
Who tf uses DOS in 2022?
__[2022-11-03(Thu)02:42:56 #1620]_____________________________________
#1619 said:
>Who tf uses DOS in 2022?
FreeDOS is always an option and many stick with it. Not exactly
sure why one'd use it over BSD outside of gaming however.
__[2022-11-05(Sat)16:15:00 #1622]_____________________________________
I prefer to use both TTY's, if she has 2.
__[2022-12-04(Sun)22:58:51 #1631]_____________________________________
TTY preferer here. It's cozy and I only startx now and then.
__[2022-12-07(Wed)21:32:28 #1632]_____________________________________
#1620 I had more fun programming in Turbo Pascal on DOS than anything
after that tbh. So easy peasy to make games, and no complicated
libraries like SDL or curses and other crap.
__[2023-04-12(Wed)14:19:37 #1668]_____________________________________
They didn't fix GPM in 20 years to report X11-type mouse events
to TTY, and running LCXterm to get it working is kinda lame, so
unfortunately I'm running my Gopher client written in Bash from X.
__[2023-04-15(Sat)00:13:55 #1670]_____________________________________
Me personally, on my 486 I prefer DOS in mode 54, which corresponds
to a 132x43 text mode. I also use the Berkeley UNIX utilities since
I still find myself trying to ls and cp instead of dir and copy.
__[2023-04-17(Mon)11:42:23 #1678]_____________________________________
is there a way to bind caps lock to escape in tty? So far I've only
done it via X and it's a major pain point for me
__[2023-04-26(Wed)14:16:24 #1700]_____________________________________
I live mostly on TTY. And I use mpv on TTY with vo=sdl. I use it for
all audios, videos, images. I know using seperate programs like fim
fits Unix philosophy more, but the quality of mpv is far better...
__[2023-04-27(Thu)14:29:32 #1701]_____________________________________
vo=tct also works, but you have to include the --quiet option. Also,
works better for me in tmux for some reason
__[2023-04-28(Fri)03:43:05 #1703]_____________________________________
#1701 I tried vo=tct, but the quality of outputs sucked. Maybe it
depends on the machine (I use OpenBSD). It's better to use just
ffplay than using mpv with vo=tct.
__[2023-05-03(Wed)06:13:30 #1708]_____________________________________
Honestly this thread is inspiring. I'll fire up my old pi with
OpenBSD and play around
__[2023-05-03(Wed)12:39:58 #1709]_____________________________________
For me it seems that at least vo=tct needs *more* CPU, so I doubt
it'll be practical on a pie, but please report back
__[2023-05-13(Sat)11:52:46 #1719]_____________________________________
I dug around and couldn't find wscons in ffmpeg or schismtracker
documentation, it turns out support for it is enabled by
default. Never thought I'd keep xenodm disabled like this but this
is really nice
__[2023-05-21(Sun)16:10:17 #1722]_____________________________________
__[2023-05-26(Fri)01:29:54 #1726]_____________________________________
Yeah wscons support is compiled into SDL by default on OpenBSD
I believe
__[2023-06-02(Fri)17:59:13 #1730]_____________________________________
#1726 said:
>Yeah wscons support is compiled into SDL by default on OpenBSD
>I believe
How do wscons and SDL play together? Does this imply you can run
SDL GUI programs in the tty?
__[2023-06-03(Sat)15:02:09 #1732]_____________________________________
#1730 said:
>#1726 said:
> >Yeah wscons support is compiled into SDL by default on OpenBSD
> >I believe
>How do wscons and SDL play together? Does this imply you can
>run SDL GUI programs in the tty?
SDL has libraries for a lot of stuff, hence why it's so
useful. schismtracker, for example, works because SDL provides user
input, graphical and sound output.
__[2023-06-04(Sun)16:45:16 #1734]_____________________________________
I found that imv (an image viewer) also uses SDL. So I can use imv
instead of mpv for images.
__[2023-06-12(Mon)09:19:46 #1735]_____________________________________
So SDL provides the functionality to create GUIs without an X server?
__[2023-07-03(Mon)12:07:52 #1742]_____________________________________
TTY is great. Everything feels so snappy and many comforts are
available. Lynx can user gopher by default but I am very partial
to elinks. Cmus is lovely so I will run that in a secondary. Irssi
with friends, and fun games like dcss
__[2023-07-22(Sat)10:06:12 #1750]_____________________________________
Technically: yes I use lots of ttys, but usualy they are attached
to something that draws into another tty or into a wayland session
__[2023-10-08(Sun)22:15:37 #1773]_____________________________________
Does using tmux in tty count? Technically it's not a tty anymore
__[2023-10-19(Thu)14:32:46 #1776]_____________________________________
>1773 Technically, maybe. At least it's not X
__[2023-11-05(Sun)12:59:33 #1779]_____________________________________
I always use TTYs, generally one, sometimes two. Every need I have
has its CLI version. X only when strictly neccessary.
__[2023-11-15(Wed)09:39:18 #1781]_____________________________________
Xenocara, CWM, UXTerm, TMUX, MPV, nsxiv, MuPDF. For everything else,
nvi, tcl/tk, and a bunch of CLI/TUI tools. Close, but it's not the
TTY nor the framebuffer.
__[2023-11-24(Fri)23:40:42 #1786]_____________________________________
Sure! in xterm; but it's 2023, and most of the software we need to
do the jobs that pay the bills depend on some graphical form
__[2023-12-04(Mon)21:22:55 #1790]_____________________________________
#1786 said:
>Sure! in xterm; but it's 2023, and most of the software we need
>to do the jobs that pay the bills depend on some graphical form
we didn't gatekeep computers enough, bros
__[2024-04-12(Fri)16:25:00 #1825]_____________________________________
It couldn't be gatekept; hardware was rigged from the start
__[2024-04-24(Wed)15:34:54 #1828]_____________________________________
there's one thinkpad i own running alpine linux with no x, i just
use dvtm and text mode stuff. Mostly just set that up for fun
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