From: "Gopher-Project" <gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org>
       Date: Thu Apr 23 02:05:09 2015
       Subject: Re: [gopher] Gopher+ support in the community
       
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       Sounds interesting I'll take a look :)
       
       cheers
       James
       
       
       James Mills / prologic
       
       E: prologic@shortcircuit.net.au
       W: prologic.shortcircuit.net.au
       
       On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 9:39 AM, Kevin Veroneau <kevin@veroneau.net> wrote:
       
       > I was thinking of urwid, but I don't feel it's the perfect match for this
       > type of application. It would require a good amount of work to use urwid
       > for such a simple client. I am planning on using the rather awesome and
       > lightweight "npyscreen" library. It's seems like a match made in heaven. It
       > supports lists(gopher menus) easily, and can easily display prompts from
       > the user in a dialogue box. It also makes it a snap to create context
       > menus(and popup menus in general). It even supports easy to create and
       > manage forms(great for ASK) and for general preference screens/bookmark
       > management. I've built a documentation viewer in it before, which had a
       > nested menu system and was able to show text documents with ease and
       > minimal code. Overall, I see npyscreen and gopher like a marriage made in
       > heaven.
       >
       > http://npyscreen.readthedocs.org/
       >
       > Check out some of their examples and tell me it won't work. :) That's why
       > I noted I could release an initial client this evening due to how easy and
       > powerful this library is. Urwid is great, I made a few apps in it, but it
       > used complex layouts to display the screen. This made debugging a tad
       > difficult, as it took some time to make an app look and function perfectly.
       > Telnet into my profile server to see that urwid app: telnet://
       > veroneau.net:5199
       >
       > Kevin.
       >
       > On April 22, 2015 5:01:54 PM MDT, James Mills <
       > prologic@shortcircuit.net.au> wrote:
       >
       >>
       >> On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 8:53 AM, Kevin Veroneau <kevin@veroneau.net>
       >> wrote:
       >>
       >>> For a gopher client, I was going to make a console-based one, along with
       >>> a Qt4 WebKit-based one. Qt4 is nicely cross platform, so nobody will be
       >>> left out.
       >>>
       >>
       >> What are you plans here?
       >>
       >> I'd be interested in a console client (urwid?)
       >> and QT4 would be nice too :)
       >>
       >> cheers
       >> James
       >>
       >>
       >> James Mills / prologic
       >>
       >> E: prologic@shortcircuit.net.au
       >> W: prologic.shortcircuit.net.au
       >>
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       <div dir=3D"ltr">Sounds interesting I&#39;ll take a look :)<div><br></div><=
       div>cheers</div><div>James</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br clear=
       =3D"all"><div><div class=3D"gmail_signature"><span style=3D"border-collapse=
       :collapse;color:rgb(136,136,136);font-size:13px"><br><font face=3D"arial, s=
       ans-serif">James Mills / prologic</font><br><br><font face=3D"arial, sans-s=
       erif"></font><font face=3D"&#39;courier new&#39;, monospace">E:=C2=A0<a hre=
       f=3D"mailto:prologic@shortcircuit.net.au" style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,204)" targ=
       et=3D"_blank">prologic@shortcircuit.net.au</a></font></span><div><span styl=
       e=3D"font-family:&#39;courier new&#39;,monospace;color:rgb(136,136,136);fon=
       t-size:13px">W:=C2=A0</span><a href=3D"http://prologic.shortcircuit.net.au"=
        style=3D"font-family:&#39;courier new&#39;,monospace;font-size:13px;color:=
       rgb(0,0,204)" target=3D"_blank">prologic.shortcircuit.net.au</a><br></div><=
       /div></div>
       <br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 9:39 AM, Kevin Veron=
       eau <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kevin@veroneau.net" target=3D"_=
       blank">kevin@veroneau.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gma=
       il_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-lef=
       t:1ex"><div>I was thinking of urwid, but I don&#39;t feel it&#39;s the perf=
       ect match for this type of application.  It would require a good amount of =
       work to use urwid for such a simple client.  I am planning on using the rat=
       her awesome and lightweight &quot;npyscreen&quot; library.  It&#39;s seems =
       like a match made in heaven.  It supports lists(gopher menus) easily, and c=
       an easily display prompts from the user in a dialogue box.  It also makes i=
       t a snap to create context menus(and popup menus in general).  It even supp=
       orts easy to create and manage forms(great for ASK) and for general prefere=
       nce screens/bookmark management.  I&#39;ve built a documentation viewer in =
       it before, which had a nested menu system and was able to show text documen=
       ts with ease and minimal code.  Overall, I see npyscreen and gopher like a =
       marriage made in heaven.<br>
       <br>
       <a href=3D"http://npyscreen.readthedocs.org" target=3D"_blank">http://npysc=
       reen.readthedocs.org</a>/<br>
       <br>
         Check out some of their examples and tell me it won&#39;t work. :)  That&=
       #39;s why I noted I could release an initial client this evening due to how=
        easy and powerful this library is.  Urwid is great, I made a few apps in i=
       t, but it used complex layouts to display the screen.  This made debugging =
       a tad difficult, as it took some time to make an app look and function perf=
       ectly.  Telnet into my profile server to see that urwid app: telnet://<a>ve=
       roneau.net:5199</a><span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><br>
       <br>
       Kevin.<br><br></font></span><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div><div class=3D"h=
       5">On April 22, 2015 5:01:54 PM MDT, James Mills &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:prol=
       ogic@shortcircuit.net.au" target=3D"_blank">prologic@shortcircuit.net.au</a=
       >&gt; wrote:</div></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0=
       pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><=
       div><div class=3D"h5">
       <div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">=
       On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 8:53 AM, Kevin Veroneau <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hr=
       ef=3D"mailto:kevin@veroneau.net" target=3D"_blank">kevin@veroneau.net</a>&g=
       t;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0=
        .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>For a gopher client=
       , I was going to make a console-based one, along with a Qt4 WebKit-based on=
       e.  Qt4 is nicely cross platform, so nobody will be left out.<br></div></bl=
       ockquote></div><br>What are you plans here?</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"=
       ><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">I&#39;d be interested in a console cl=
       ient (urwid?)</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">and QT4 would be nice too :)<=
       /div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">cheers=
       </div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">James<br><br clear=3D"all"><div><div><span=
        style=3D"border-collapse:collapse;color:rgb(136,136,136);font-size:13px"><=
       br><u></u>James Mills / prologic<br><br><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif"></=
       font><font face=3D"&#39;courier new&#39;, monospace">E:=C2=A0<a href=3D"mai=
       lto:prologic@shortcircuit.net.au" style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,204)" target=3D"_b=
       lank">prologic@shortcircuit.net.au</a></font></span><div><span style=3D"fon=
       t-family:&#39;courier new&#39;,monospace;color:rgb(136,136,136);font-size:1=
       3px">W:=C2=A0</span><a href=3D"http://prologic.shortcircuit.net.au" style=
       =3D"font-family:&#39;courier new&#39;,monospace;font-size:13px;color:rgb(0,=
       0,204)" target=3D"_blank">prologic.shortcircuit.net.au</a><br></div></div><=
       /div>
       </div></div>
       <p style=3D"margin-top:2.5em;margin-bottom:1em;border-bottom:1px solid #000=
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