From: "Gopher-Project" <gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org>
Date: Sat Jan 23 21:37:11 2016
Subject: Re: [gopher] Gopher-Project Digest, Vol 69, Issue 24
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>It is an ambitious plan but rather useless. Comparing to the Internet
connection SMS costs very
>much today, especially SMS to a foreign country. I think your project with
SMS is late for at least 10 years.
Haha, the irony of anyone here chiding a gopher project as being "late".
Anyway, the critique is off. There are plenty of places and people without
ANY direct internet access, yet some SMS. Amazingly, most of the world is
not on Faceborg 24/7 with urban infrastructure and smart phones...
Rah rah for the SMS idea. I'd use it, if only for the occasional
Gopherpedia query from the boonies...
Brighid
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2016 07:46:06 -0600
> From: Matthew Holevinski <eylusion@gmail.com <javascript:;>>
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> I second the aprs idea.
>
> Matt
> On Jan 22, 2016 6:07 PM, "???" <wubaixue@gmail.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
>
> > Mr. Kevin,
> >
> > I left a message, which has been somewhat humourously transcribed by
> > machine. Pretty nifty project! However, it doesn't seem to have made an
> > MP3 copy of my call, or at least hasn't posted it to folder. FYI.
> >
> > I heartily appreciate and encourage your happy work in this direction.
> If
> > you ever get your SMS app working, please consider also allowing it to
> > accept APRS packets ported direct from APRS-IS gateways. Such would be
> > nifty doodle for us hams.
> >
> > Toodloo,
> > Brighid
> >
> > On Friday, 22 January 2016, <
> > gopher-project-request@lists.alioth.debian.org <javascript:;>> wrote:
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> >> 1. Gopher 2.0? (Kevin Veroneau)
> >> 2. Re: Gopher 2.0? (Kevin Veroneau)
> >>
> >>
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 1
> >> Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2016 23:26:00 -0700
> >> From: Kevin Veroneau <kevin@veroneau.net <javascript:;>>
> >> To: gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org <javascript:;>
> >> Subject: [gopher] Gopher 2.0?
> >> Message-ID: <201601212326.00383.kevin@veroneau.net <javascript:;>>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >>
> >> Hello everybody!
> >>
> >> I have developed a new kind of gopher mole, which would have suited
> >> gopher
> >> back when it was popular, as it pairs telephony technology with gopher!
> >>
> >> Get ready to jump into a gopher hole like no other on gopher space, I
> >> now
> >> proudly present the world's first gopher-to-telephony gateway interface!
> >> Now,
> >> you can fill in gopher forms using the latest in voice transcription
> >> services.
> >> Yes, you heard me right, with this new one of a kind gopher mole, my
> >> server
> >> will call any phone number you give it and request of you using voice to
> >> record your guestbook posting. This guestbook posting is then saved
> >> directly
> >> on the server as a convenient MP3 file and then transcripted into text
> for
> >> future visitors can both hear your lovely voice and read your
> transcribed
> >> text.
> >>
> >> Now, you might be asking yourself... Does this require some sort of
> >> fancy
> >> new modern gopher client? Nope, not at all. This proof-of-concept
> >> technology
> >> even works by using your PCs tried and true telnet command program. So,
> >> this
> >> gopher mole will work in everything in the gopher market from today to
> >> back in
> >> the 70s.
> >>
> >> Upon visiting the mole, you just use a standard gopher type 7 to
> submit
> >> the
> >> phone number you wish gopher to call you at. The mole will then use
> some
> >> telephony magic to make an outbound call to any phone number you
> >> provided, it
> >> will even do a quick check to make sure you entered in a valid working
> >> phone
> >> number using various carrier APIs. Then seconds from submitting your
> >> phone
> >> number, your phone will magically ring and an automated message will
> play
> >> back
> >> asking you to record your guestbook message after the tone. Then you
> can
> >> simply hang up the phone and watch the magic happen. The recording
> should
> >> appear about 5 seconds after the phone is hung up, and the transcription
> >> can
> >> take as long as 2 minutes, depending on the length of your message.
> >>
> >> You can try it out here, currently the gopher hole isn't yet publically
> >> available, as I wanted to you lovely a sneak peek:
> >> gopher://gopher.veroneau.net/1apps/guestbook2
> >>
> >> My next goal is to enable this same functionality using SMS messages,
> >> but
> >> that could incur charges on the users' end depending where they are and
> if
> >> they are charged for long distance SMS messages.
> >>
> >> Finally, I plan on making a complete sms2gopher gateway, where you can
> >> text
> >> a number a valid gopher URI, and browse gopher from absolutely any
> mobile
> >> device in the entire known universe, as long as it supports SMS that is.
> >> You
> >> will even be-able to instruct it to call you with a full text-to-speech
> >> recording of an entire gopher document!
> >>
> >> For privacy reasons, your phone number is not stored, or displayed on
> >> this
> >> guestbook. So go ahead and show off this rather unique guestbook
> >> experience to
> >> friends and family. It's sure to put a smile on their face.
> >>
> >> Best Regards,
> >> Kevin Veroneau
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 2
> >> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 01:05:49 -0700
> >> From: Kevin Veroneau <kevin@veroneau.net <javascript:;>>
> >> To: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org
> <javascript:;>>
> >> Subject: Re: [gopher] Gopher 2.0?
> >> Message-ID:
> >> <
> >> mailman.215.1453464049.18817.gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org
> <javascript:;>>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> >>
> >> Quick note on this. ?Although I do hope that we are all mature adults in
> >> gopherspace, I am hoping that nobody goes and abuses this to make, let's
> >> say "prank calls" to numbers which aren't your own... ?any number put
> into
> >> the search box will be called by the server, there's really no way to
> know
> >> if it's your real number or someone else's. ?Do not use this service for
> >> solicitation. ?Nobody likes spam, and especially random phone numbers
> >> calling them asking them to record a guest book post.
> >>
> >> ? In version 2.1 I will implement a rate limiter based on IP address to
> >> prevent potential abuse when it goes more public. ?Thankfully not many
> bots
> >> frequent gopherholes, and from my gopher server logs and prior
> guestbook, I
> >> don't see bots spamming our gopher type 7s thankfully, so hopefully I
> can
> >> keep this proof of concept alive for years to come for many people to
> try
> >> out. ?Anyways, I do hope everyone enjoys this rather interesting
> project I
> >> put together. ?Look forward to both hearing your guestbook messages and
> >> reading what is transcribed. ?This also gives us an interesting way to
> >> share our real voices with others in gopherspace. :). I still think I'm
> the
> >> youngest gopher user here, but let's see.
> >>
> >> ? Original Message ?
> >> From:kevin@veroneau.net <javascript:;>
> >> Sent:January 22, 2016 12:25 AM
> >> To:gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org <javascript:;>
> >> Subject:[gopher] Gopher 2.0?
> >>
> >> Hello everybody!
> >>
> >> ? I have developed a new kind of gopher mole, which would have suited
> >> gopher
> >> back when it was popular, as it pairs telephony technology with gopher!
> >>
> >> ? Get ready to jump into a gopher hole like no other on gopher space, I
> >> now
> >> proudly present the world's first gopher-to-telephony gateway
> interface!?
> >> Now,
> >> you can fill in gopher forms using the latest in voice transcription
> >> services.?
> >> Yes, you heard me right, with this new one of a kind gopher mole, my
> >> server
> >> will call any phone number you give it and request of you using voice to
> >> record your guestbook posting.? This guestbook posting is then saved
> >> directly
> >> on the server as a convenient MP3 file and then transcripted into text
> for
> >> future visitors can both hear your lovely voice and read your
> transcribed
> >> text.
> >>
> >> ? Now, you might be asking yourself...? Does this require some sort of
> >> fancy
> >> new modern gopher client?? Nope, not at all.? This proof-of-concept
> >> technology
> >> even works by using your PCs tried and true telnet command program.? So,
> >> this
> >> gopher mole will work in everything in the gopher market from today to
> >> back in
> >> the 70s.
> >>
> >> ? Upon visiting the mole, you just use a standard gopher type 7 to
> submit
> >> the
> >> phone number you wish gopher to call you at.? The mole will then use
> some
> >> telephony magic to make an outbound call to any phone number you
> >> provided, it
> >> will even do a quick check to make sure you entered in a valid working
> >> phone
> >> number using various carrier APIs.? Then seconds from submitting your
> >> phone
> >> number, your phone will magically ring and an automated message will
> play
> >> back
> >> asking you to record your guestbook message after the tone.? Then you
> can
> >> simply hang up the phone and watch the magic happen.? The recording
> should
> >> appear about 5 seconds after the phone is hung up, and the transcription
> >> can
> >> take as long as 2 minutes, depending on the length of your message.
> >>
> >> You can try it out here, currently the gopher hole isn't yet publically
> >> available, as I wanted to you lovely a sneak peek:
> >> gopher://gopher.veroneau.net/1apps/guestbook2
> >>
> >> ? My next goal is to enable this same functionality using SMS messages,
> >> but
> >> that could incur charges on the users' end depending where they are and
> if
> >> they are charged for long distance SMS messages.
> >>
> >> ? Finally, I plan on making a complete sms2gopher gateway, where you can
> >> text
> >> a number a valid gopher URI, and browse gopher from absolutely any
> mobile
> >> device in the entire known universe, as long as it supports SMS that
> is.?
> >> You
> >> will even be-able to instruct it to call you with a full text-to-speech
> >> recording of an entire gopher document!
> >>
> >> ? For privacy reasons, your phone number is not stored, or displayed on
> >> this
> >> guestbook.? So go ahead and show off this rather unique guestbook
> >> experience to
> >> friends and family.? It's sure to put a smile on their face.
> >>
> >> Best Regards,
> >> ? Kevin Veroneau
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
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> >> Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org <javascript:;>
> >> http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
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> From: NN NN <aepedia@yandex.ru <javascript:;>>
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> > Finally, I plan on making a complete sms2gopher gateway, where you can
> text
> > a number a valid gopher URI, and browse gopher from absolutely any mobile
> > device in the entire known universe, as long as it supports SMS that is.
> You
> > will even be-able to instruct it to call you with a full text-to-speech
> > recording of an entire gopher document!
>
> It is an ambitious plan but rather useless. Comparing to the Internet
> connection SMS costs very much today, especially SMS to a foreign country.
> I think your project with SMS is late for at least 10 years.
>
>
>
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<font size=3D"2"><span style=3D"background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">>I=
t is an ambitious plan but rather useless. Comparing to the Internet connec=
tion SMS costs very=C2=A0</span></font><div><font size=3D"2"><span style=3D=
"background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">>much today, especially SMS to a =
foreign country. I think your project with SMS is late for at least 10 year=
s.</span></font><div><font size=3D"2"><span style=3D"-webkit-tap-highlight-=
color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.301961);"><br></span></font></div><div><font size=
=3D"2"><span style=3D"-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.30196=
1);">Haha, the irony of anyone here=C2=A0chiding a gopher project as being =
"late".</span></font></div><div><font size=3D"2"><span style=3D"-=
webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.301961);"><br></span></font>=
</div><div><font size=3D"2"><span style=3D"-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgb=
a(26, 26, 26, 0.301961);">Anyway, the critique is off.=C2=A0 There are plen=
ty of places and people=C2=A0without ANY direct=C2=A0internet access, yet s=
ome SMS.=C2=A0 Amazingly, most of the world is not on Faceborg 24/7 with ur=
ban infrastructure and smart phones...</span></font></div><div><font size=
=3D"2"><span style=3D"-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.30196=
1);"><br></span></font></div><div><font size=3D"2"><span style=3D"-webkit-t=
ap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.301961);">Rah rah for the=C2=A0SMS i=
dea.=C2=A0 I'd use it, if only for the occasional Gopherpedia query fro=
m the boonies...</span></font></div><div><font size=3D"2"><span style=3D"-w=
ebkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.301961);"><br></span></font><=
/div><div><font size=3D"2"><span style=3D"-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba=
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I second the aprs idea.<br>
<br>
Matt<br>
On Jan 22, 2016 6:07 PM, "???" <<a href=3D"javascript:;" oncli=
ck=3D"_e(event, 'cvml', 'wubaixue@gmail.com')">wubaixue@gma=
il.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
> Mr. Kevin,<br>
><br>
> I left a message, which has been somewhat humourously transcribed by<b=
r>
> machine.=C2=A0 Pretty nifty project!=C2=A0 However, it doesn't see=
m to have made an<br>
> MP3 copy of my call, or at least hasn't posted it to folder.=C2=A0=
FYI.<br>
><br>
> I heartily appreciate and encourage your happy work in this direction.=
=C2=A0 If<br>
> you ever get your SMS app working, please consider also allowing it to=
<br>
> accept APRS packets ported direct from APRS-IS gateways.=C2=A0 Such wo=
uld be<br>
> nifty doodle for us hams.<br>
><br>
> Toodloo,<br>
> Brighid<br>
><br>
> On Friday, 22 January 2016, <<br>
> <a href=3D"javascript:;" onclick=3D"_e(event, 'cvml', 'gop=
her-project-request@lists.alioth.debian.org')">gopher-project-request@l=
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>> Send Gopher-Project mailing list submissions to<br>
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>> Today's Topics:<br>
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>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 1.=C2=A0 Gopher 2.0? (Kevin Veroneau)<br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 2. Re:=C2=A0 Gopher 2.0? (Kevin Veroneau)<br>
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>> Message: 1<br>
>> Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2016 23:26:00 -0700<br>
>> From: Kevin Veroneau <<a href=3D"javascript:;" onclick=3D"_e(ev=
ent, 'cvml', 'kevin@veroneau.net')">kevin@veroneau.net</a>&=
gt;<br>
>> To: <a href=3D"javascript:;" onclick=3D"_e(event, 'cvml', =
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oth.debian.org</a><br>
>> Subject: [gopher] Gopher 2.0?<br>
>> Message-ID: <<a href=3D"javascript:;" onclick=3D"_e(event, '=
;cvml', '201601212326.00383.kevin@veroneau.net')">201601212326.=
00383.kevin@veroneau.net</a>><br>
>> Content-Type: text/plain;=C2=A0 charset=3D"us-ascii"<br>
>><br>
>> Hello everybody!<br>
>><br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0I have developed a new kind of gopher mole, which woul=
d have suited<br>
>> gopher<br>
>> back when it was popular, as it pairs telephony technology with go=
pher!<br>
>><br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0Get ready to jump into a gopher hole like no other on =
gopher space, I<br>
>> now<br>
>> proudly present the world's first gopher-to-telephony gateway =
interface!<br>
>> Now,<br>
>> you can fill in gopher forms using the latest in voice transcripti=
on<br>
>> services.<br>
>> Yes, you heard me right, with this new one of a kind gopher mole, =
my<br>
>> server<br>
>> will call any phone number you give it and request of you using vo=
ice to<br>
>> record your guestbook posting.=C2=A0 This guestbook posting is the=
n saved<br>
>> directly<br>
>> on the server as a convenient MP3 file and then transcripted into =
text for<br>
>> future visitors can both hear your lovely voice and read your tran=
scribed<br>
>> text.<br>
>><br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0Now, you might be asking yourself...=C2=A0 Does this r=
equire some sort of<br>
>> fancy<br>
>> new modern gopher client?=C2=A0 Nope, not at all.=C2=A0 This proof=
-of-concept<br>
>> technology<br>
>> even works by using your PCs tried and true telnet command program=
.=C2=A0 So,<br>
>> this<br>
>> gopher mole will work in everything in the gopher market from toda=
y to<br>
>> back in<br>
>> the 70s.<br>
>><br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0Upon visiting the mole, you just use a standard gopher=
type 7 to submit<br>
>> the<br>
>> phone number you wish gopher to call you at.=C2=A0 The mole will t=
hen use some<br>
>> telephony magic to make an outbound call to any phone number you<b=
r>
>> provided, it<br>
>> will even do a quick check to make sure you entered in a valid wor=
king<br>
>> phone<br>
>> number using various carrier APIs.=C2=A0 Then seconds from submitt=
ing your<br>
>> phone<br>
>> number, your phone will magically ring and an automated message wi=
ll play<br>
>> back<br>
>> asking you to record your guestbook message after the tone.=C2=A0 =
Then you can<br>
>> simply hang up the phone and watch the magic happen.=C2=A0 The rec=
ording should<br>
>> appear about 5 seconds after the phone is hung up, and the transcr=
iption<br>
>> can<br>
>> take as long as 2 minutes, depending on the length of your message=
.<br>
>><br>
>> You can try it out here, currently the gopher hole isn't yet p=
ublically<br>
>> available, as I wanted to you lovely a sneak peek:<br>
>> gopher://<a href=3D"http://gopher.veroneau.net/1apps/guestbook2" t=
arget=3D"_blank">gopher.veroneau.net/1apps/guestbook2</a><br>
>><br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0My next goal is to enable this same functionality usin=
g SMS messages,<br>
>> but<br>
>> that could incur charges on the users' end depending where the=
y are and if<br>
>> they are charged for long distance SMS messages.<br>
>><br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0Finally, I plan on making a complete sms2gopher gatewa=
y, where you can<br>
>> text<br>
>> a number a valid gopher URI, and browse gopher from absolutely any=
mobile<br>
>> device in the entire known universe, as long as it supports SMS th=
at is.<br>
>> You<br>
>> will even be-able to instruct it to call you with a full text-to-s=
peech<br>
>> recording of an entire gopher document!<br>
>><br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0For privacy reasons, your phone number is not stored, =
or displayed on<br>
>> this<br>
>> guestbook.=C2=A0 So go ahead and show off this rather unique guest=
book<br>
>> experience to<br>
>> friends and family.=C2=A0 It's sure to put a smile on their fa=
ce.<br>
>><br>
>> Best Regards,<br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0Kevin Veroneau<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> ------------------------------<br>
>><br>
>> Message: 2<br>
>> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 01:05:49 -0700<br>
>> From: Kevin Veroneau <<a href=3D"javascript:;" onclick=3D"_e(ev=
ent, 'cvml', 'kevin@veroneau.net')">kevin@veroneau.net</a>&=
gt;<br>
>> To: Gopher Project Discussion <<a href=3D"javascript:;" onclick=
=3D"_e(event, 'cvml', 'gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org&#=
39;)">gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org</a>><br>
>> Subject: Re: [gopher] Gopher 2.0?<br>
>> Message-ID:<br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<<br>
>> <a href=3D"javascript:;" onclick=3D"_e(event, 'cvml', '=
;mailman.215.1453464049.18817.gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org')"=
>mailman.215.1453464049.18817.gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org</a>>=
;<br>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dutf-8<br>
>><br>
>> Quick note on this. ?Although I do hope that we are all mature adu=
lts in<br>
>> gopherspace, I am hoping that nobody goes and abuses this to make,=
let's<br>
>> say "prank calls" to numbers which aren't your own..=
. ?any number put into<br>
>> the search box will be called by the server, there's really no=
way to know<br>
>> if it's your real number or someone else's. ?Do not use th=
is service for<br>
>> solicitation. ?Nobody likes spam, and especially random phone numb=
ers<br>
>> calling them asking them to record a guest book post.<br>
>><br>
>> ? In version 2.1 I will implement a rate limiter based on IP addre=
ss to<br>
>> prevent potential abuse when it goes more public. ?Thankfully not =
many bots<br>
>> frequent gopherholes, and from my gopher server logs and prior gue=
stbook, I<br>
>> don't see bots spamming our gopher type 7s thankfully, so hope=
fully I can<br>
>> keep this proof of concept alive for years to come for many people=
to try<br>
>> out. ?Anyways, I do hope everyone enjoys this rather interesting p=
roject I<br>
>> put together. ?Look forward to both hearing your guestbook message=
s and<br>
>> reading what is transcribed. ?This also gives us an interesting wa=
y to<br>
>> share our real voices with others in gopherspace. :). I still thin=
k I'm the<br>
>> youngest gopher user here, but let's see.<br>
>><br>
>> ? Original Message ?<br>
>> <a href=3D"javascript:;" onclick=3D"_e(event, 'cvml', '=
;From:kevin@veroneau.net')">From:kevin@veroneau.net</a><br>
>> Sent:January 22, 2016 12:25 AM<br>
>> <a href=3D"javascript:;" onclick=3D"_e(event, 'cvml', '=
;To:gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org')">To:gopher-project@lists.a=
lioth.debian.org</a><br>
>> Subject:[gopher] Gopher 2.0?<br>
>><br>
>> Hello everybody!<br>
>><br>
>> ? I have developed a new kind of gopher mole, which would have sui=
ted<br>
>> gopher<br>
>> back when it was popular, as it pairs telephony technology with go=
pher!<br>
>><br>
>> ? Get ready to jump into a gopher hole like no other on gopher spa=
ce, I<br>
>> now<br>
>> proudly present the world's first gopher-to-telephony gateway =
interface!?<br>
>> Now,<br>
>> you can fill in gopher forms using the latest in voice transcripti=
on<br>
>> services.?<br>
>> Yes, you heard me right, with this new one of a kind gopher mole, =
my<br>
>> server<br>
>> will call any phone number you give it and request of you using vo=
ice to<br>
>> record your guestbook posting.? This guestbook posting is then sav=
ed<br>
>> directly<br>
>> on the server as a convenient MP3 file and then transcripted into =
text for<br>
>> future visitors can both hear your lovely voice and read your tran=
scribed<br>
>> text.<br>
>><br>
>> ? Now, you might be asking yourself...? Does this require some sor=
t of<br>
>> fancy<br>
>> new modern gopher client?? Nope, not at all.? This proof-of-concep=
t<br>
>> technology<br>
>> even works by using your PCs tried and true telnet command program=
.? So,<br>
>> this<br>
>> gopher mole will work in everything in the gopher market from toda=
y to<br>
>> back in<br>
>> the 70s.<br>
>><br>
>> ? Upon visiting the mole, you just use a standard gopher type 7 to=
submit<br>
>> the<br>
>> phone number you wish gopher to call you at.? The mole will then u=
se some<br>
>> telephony magic to make an outbound call to any phone number you<b=
r>
>> provided, it<br>
>> will even do a quick check to make sure you entered in a valid wor=
king<br>
>> phone<br>
>> number using various carrier APIs.? Then seconds from submitting y=
our<br>
>> phone<br>
>> number, your phone will magically ring and an automated message wi=
ll play<br>
>> back<br>
>> asking you to record your guestbook message after the tone.? Then =
you can<br>
>> simply hang up the phone and watch the magic happen.? The recordin=
g should<br>
>> appear about 5 seconds after the phone is hung up, and the transcr=
iption<br>
>> can<br>
>> take as long as 2 minutes, depending on the length of your message=
.<br>
>><br>
>> You can try it out here, currently the gopher hole isn't yet p=
ublically<br>
>> available, as I wanted to you lovely a sneak peek:<br>
>> gopher://<a href=3D"http://gopher.veroneau.net/1apps/guestbook2" t=
arget=3D"_blank">gopher.veroneau.net/1apps/guestbook2</a><br>
>><br>
>> ? My next goal is to enable this same functionality using SMS mess=
ages,<br>
>> but<br>
>> that could incur charges on the users' end depending where the=
y are and if<br>
>> they are charged for long distance SMS messages.<br>
>><br>
>> ? Finally, I plan on making a complete sms2gopher gateway, where y=
ou can<br>
>> text<br>
>> a number a valid gopher URI, and browse gopher from absolutely any=
mobile<br>
>> device in the entire known universe, as long as it supports SMS th=
at is.?<br>
>> You<br>
>> will even be-able to instruct it to call you with a full text-to-s=
peech<br>
>> recording of an entire gopher document!<br>
>><br>
>> ? For privacy reasons, your phone number is not stored, or display=
ed on<br>
>> this<br>
>> guestbook.? So go ahead and show off this rather unique guestbook<=
br>
>> experience to<br>
>> friends and family.? It's sure to put a smile on their face.<b=
r>
>><br>
>> Best Regards,<br>
>> ? Kevin Veroneau<br>
>><br>
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> Finally, I plan on making a complete sms2gopher gateway, where you can=
text<br>
> a number a valid gopher URI, and browse gopher from absolutely any mob=
ile<br>
> device in the entire known universe, as long as it supports SMS that i=
s. You<br>
> will even be-able to instruct it to call you with a full text-to-speec=
h<br>
> recording of an entire gopher document!<br>
<br>
It is an ambitious plan but rather useless. Comparing to the Internet conne=
ction SMS costs very much today, especially SMS to a foreign country. I thi=
nk your project with SMS is late for at least 10 years.<br>
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