From: "Gopher-Project" <gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org>
Date: Sun Aug 28 09:33:22 2016
Subject: Re: [gopher] New Cross-Platform Gopher GUI Client
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Good news! Your latest binaries are working okay now. No more "hanging".
Fonts are still very blurred though :)
James Mills / prologic
E: prologic@shortcircuit.net.au
W: prologic.shortcircuit.net.au
On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 7:09 PM, Kevin Veroneau <kevin@veroneau.net> wrote:
> A REALLY BIG update!
>
> All binaries on my GopherSpace have also been updated to the latest
> versions
> as well.
>
> *** What's new ***
>
> * Full Bookmark support! Bookmarks are saved into a local file in Gopher
> Menu format. So if you know the Gopher protocol, you can edit the bookmark
> file.
> * Support for many more GopherTypes, search, and binary.
> * Ability to save the image you are viewing to your local
> disk(Right-click
> menu).
> * Ability to download supported GopherTypes to local disk,
> Text/Image/Binary
> * You can now close previously opened GopherNodes in the tree view.
> * Updated icons, taken from the Emerald GPL iconset.
> * You can now resize the middle divider.
> * Many bug fixes and improved stability.
>
> I wouldn't recommend downloading uber large binary files on a slow
> connection
> as threading AKA a download manager which runs in the background isn't yet
> implemented, so downloads do hang the GUI.
>
> Attached is a screenshot from my Linux workstation, I tried to snapshot
> the
> right-click context menu in the tree view, but KSnapshot doesn't do that.
>
> Anyways, let me know what you think of this update and the project
> overall.
>
> On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 11:58:44 PM Kevin Veroneau wrote:
> > Hmm, not entirely sure what is causing that Access Violation, I had that
> > problem during initial development which ended up slowing down
> development.
> > I will look further into that.
> >
> > Font options would be something I will definately look into.
> >
> > I updated the Source code to enable GopherType 7 and h, so now Veronica-2
> > works, as well as most gopherholes which use the search type. Initial
> > support for the 'h' type has also been added, however I am trying to
> debug
> > how to make the "data:" protocol which some gopherpages use work
> properly.
> >
> > These updates are not available in the binary images yet, I will make an
> > updated set of binaries tomorrow evening after I get more working. :)
> >
> > On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 11:10:22 PM James Mills wrote:
> > > Okay... So running from /Applications/gopher.app/Contents/MacOS works
> > >
> > > $ ./gopher
> > >
> > > I've run into several stack-traces though (Access Violation -- pascal
> > > days coming back to me!)
> > >
> > > e.g: https://gist.github.com/5a7011f0c987ebf7db849169e14a8c59
> > >
> > > Also fonts are terrible on OS X (btw). I typically use OS X's buitin
> > > accessibility zoom (because I'm legally blind) and whatever fonts or
> > > however content is being rendered in the gopher client is really bad :(
> > >
> > > cheers
> > > James
> > >
> > >
> > > James Mills / prologic
> > >
> > > E: prologic@shortcircuit.net.au
> > > W: prologic.shortcircuit.net.au
> > >
> > > On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 10:05 PM, James Mills
> > > <prologic@shortcircuit.net.au>
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > > > Sorry that was my blindness there :P You are right about where it
> > > > connects to by default (or tries to).
> > > >
> > > > But yeah this is totally not working; let me try to dig in to why...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > James Mills / prologic
> > > >
> > > > E: prologic@shortcircuit.net.au
> > > > W: prologic.shortcircuit.net.au
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 9:55 PM, Kevin Veroneau <kevin@veroneau.net>
> > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >> That's odd, it's currently set to load gopher.veroneau.net by
> default.
> > > >> I haven't seen the not responding on any of the platforms I tested
> it
> > > >> on, not
> > > >> sure what's going on there. I only noticed a crash if there was no
> > > >> network
> > > >> available.
> > > >>
> > > >> You can run the binary from a Terminal if you run it from inside the
> > > >> Application bundle. It might display some sort of output there.
> This
> > > >> is my
> > > >> first time building an OS X app bundle, so maybe something in the
> > > >> plist is incorrect.
> > > >>
> > > >> On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 10:47:28 PM James Mills wrote:
> > > >> > So one major issue right now )blocker):
> > > >> >
> > > >> > a) Open App
> > > >> > b) It loads vernica.floodgap.com by default (fine)
> > > >> > c) Spins -- Not Responding (not responsive to GUI events, spinning
> > > >>
> > > >> wheel)
> > > >>
> > > >> > Looking at process stats:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > consistent ~2.7% CPU util, 2 threads
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Should I just keep waiting? Or is there a bug?
> > > >> >
> > > >> > cheers
> > > >> > James
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > James Mills / prologic
> > > >> >
> > > >> > E: prologic@shortcircuit.net.au
> > > >> > W: prologic.shortcircuit.net.au
> > > >> >
> > > >> > On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 9:44 PM, Kevin Veroneau <
> kevin@veroneau.net>
> > > >>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >> > > Cameron, it might be possible to compile a version for Mac OS X
> > > >> > > 10.4, looking
> > > >> > > at the compatibility page, it looks like FPC 2.6.4 and Lazarus
> > > >> > > 1.2.6
> > > >>
> > > >> can
> > > >>
> > > >> > > build
> > > >> > > for OS X 10.4.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > http://wiki.freepascal.org/Installing_Lazarus_on_MacOS_X#Com
> > > >>
> > > >> patibility
> > > >>
> > > >> > > Once this Gopher client has matured enough, and you have about
> an
> > > >>
> > > >> hour to
> > > >>
> > > >> > > spare, you can try installing Xcode and Lazarus onto OS X 10.4
> and
> > > >> > > running the
> > > >> > > compile process. There is only one Lazarus package needed other
> > > >> > > than
> > > >>
> > > >> the
> > > >>
> > > >> > > base
> > > >> > > Lazarus components and that is TurboPowerIPro which is used for
> > > >> > > the
> > > >>
> > > >> HTML
> > > >>
> > > >> > > widget. Even if this isn't compatible with needed version of
> > > >>
> > > >> Lazarus, we
> > > >>
> > > >> > > could just replace it with a different widget.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 10:25:41 PM Cameron Kaiser wrote:
> > > >> > > > > Ooops I think you have a packaging problem.
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > OS X 10.11.6 (El Captain) is unable to open the DMG.
> > > >> > > > > The error is "unrecognized disk image".
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > It doesn't open on 10.4 either, though I strongly suspect the
> > > >> > > > binary isn't PowerPC compatible.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > _______________________________________________
> > > >> > > Gopher-Project mailing list
> > > >> > > Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
> > > >> > > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/goph
> > > >>
> > > >> er-project
> > > >>
> > > >> _______________________________________________
> > > >> Gopher-Project mailing list
> > > >> Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
> > > >> http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/
> gopher-project
> >
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> > Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
> > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Good news! Your latest binaries are working okay now. No m=
ore "hanging".<div><br></div><div>Fonts are still very blurred th=
ough :)</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br clear=3D"all"><div><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_signature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><span style=3D"=
border-collapse:collapse;color:rgb(136,136,136);font-size:13px"><br><font f=
ace=3D"arial, sans-serif">James Mills / prologic</font><br><br><font face=
=3D"arial, sans-serif"></font><font face=3D"'courier new', monospac=
e">E:=C2=A0<a href=3D"mailto:prologic@shortcircuit.net.au" style=3D"color:r=
gb(0,0,204)" target=3D"_blank">prologic@shortcircuit.net.au</a></font></spa=
n><div><span style=3D"font-family:'courier new',monospace;color:rgb=
(136,136,136);font-size:13px">W:=C2=A0</span><a href=3D"http://prologic.sho=
rtcircuit.net.au" style=3D"font-family:'courier new',monospace;font=
-size:13px;color:rgb(0,0,204)" target=3D"_blank">prologic.shortcircuit.net.=
au</a><br></div></div></div>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 7:09 PM, Kevin Veron=
eau <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:kevin@veroneau.net" target=3D"_=
blank">kevin@veroneau.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gma=
il_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-lef=
t:1ex">A REALLY BIG update!<br>
<br>
All binaries on my GopherSpace have also been updated to the latest version=
s<br>
as well.<br>
<br>
*** What's new ***<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 * Full Bookmark support!=C2=A0 Bookmarks are saved into a local file=
in Gopher<br>
Menu format.=C2=A0 So if you know the Gopher protocol, you can edit the boo=
kmark<br>
file.<br>
=C2=A0 * Support for many more GopherTypes, search, and binary.<br>
=C2=A0 * Ability to save the image you are viewing to your local disk(Right=
-click<br>
menu).<br>
=C2=A0 * Ability to download supported GopherTypes to local disk, Text/Imag=
e/Binary<br>
=C2=A0 * You can now close previously opened GopherNodes in the tree view.<=
br>
=C2=A0 * Updated icons, taken from the Emerald GPL iconset.<br>
=C2=A0 * You can now resize the middle divider.<br>
=C2=A0 * Many bug fixes and improved stability.<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 I wouldn't recommend downloading uber large binary files on a sl=
ow connection<br>
as threading AKA a download manager which runs in the background isn't =
yet<br>
implemented, so downloads do hang the GUI.<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 Attached is a screenshot from my Linux workstation, I tried to snaps=
hot the<br>
right-click context menu in the tree view, but KSnapshot doesn't do tha=
t.<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 Anyways, let me know what you think of this update and the project o=
verall.<br>
<div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br>
On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 11:58:44 PM Kevin Veroneau wrote:<br>
> Hmm, not entirely sure what is causing that Access Violation, I had th=
at<br>
> problem during initial development which ended up slowing down develop=
ment.<br>
>=C2=A0 I will look further into that.<br>
><br>
> Font options would be something I will definately look into.<br>
><br>
> I updated the Source code to enable GopherType 7 and h, so now Veronic=
a-2<br>
> works, as well as most gopherholes which use the search type.=C2=A0 In=
itial<br>
> support for the 'h' type has also been added, however I am try=
ing to debug<br>
> how to make the "data:" protocol which some gopherpages use =
work properly.<br>
><br>
> These updates are not available in the binary images yet, I will make =
an<br>
> updated set of binaries tomorrow evening after I get more working. :)<=
br>
><br>
> On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 11:10:22 PM James Mills wrote:<br>
> > Okay... So running from /Applications/gopher.app/<wbr>Contents/Ma=
cOS works<br>
> ><br>
> > $ ./gopher<br>
> ><br>
> > I've run into several stack-traces though (Access Violation -=
- pascal<br>
> > days coming back to me!)<br>
> ><br>
> > e.g: <a href=3D"https://gist.github.com/5a7011f0c987ebf7db849169e=
14a8c59" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://gist.github.com/<wbr>=
5a7011f0c987ebf7db849169e14a8c<wbr>59</a><br>
> ><br>
> > Also fonts are terrible on OS X (btw). I typically use OS X's=
buitin<br>
> > accessibility zoom (because I'm legally blind) and whatever f=
onts or<br>
> > however content is being rendered in the gopher client is really =
bad :(<br>
> ><br>
> > cheers<br>
> > James<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > James Mills / prologic<br>
> ><br>
> > E: <a href=3D"mailto:prologic@shortcircuit.net.au">prologic@short=
circuit.net.au</a><br>
> > W: <a href=3D"http://prologic.shortcircuit.net.au" rel=3D"norefer=
rer" target=3D"_blank">prologic.shortcircuit.net.au</a><br>
> ><br>
> > On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 10:05 PM, James Mills<br>
> > <<a href=3D"mailto:prologic@shortcircuit.net.au">prologic@shor=
tcircuit.net.au</a>><br>
> ><br>
> > wrote:<br>
> > > Sorry that was my blindness there :P You are right about whe=
re it<br>
> > > connects to by default (or tries to).<br>
> > ><br>
> > > But yeah this is totally not working; let me try to dig in t=
o why...<br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > > James Mills / prologic<br>
> > ><br>
> > > E: <a href=3D"mailto:prologic@shortcircuit.net.au">prologic@=
shortcircuit.net.au</a><br>
> > > W: <a href=3D"http://prologic.shortcircuit.net.au" rel=3D"no=
referrer" target=3D"_blank">prologic.shortcircuit.net.au</a><br>
> > ><br>
> > > On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 9:55 PM, Kevin Veroneau <<a href=
=3D"mailto:kevin@veroneau.net">kevin@veroneau.net</a>><br>
> > ><br>
> > > wrote:<br>
> > >> That's odd, it's currently set to load <a href=
=3D"http://gopher.veroneau.net" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">gopher=
.veroneau.net</a> by default.<br>
> > >> I haven't seen the not responding on any of the plat=
forms I tested it<br>
> > >> on, not<br>
> > >> sure what's going on there.=C2=A0 I only noticed a c=
rash if there was no<br>
> > >> network<br>
> > >> available.<br>
> > >><br>
> > >> You can run the binary from a Terminal if you run it fro=
m inside the<br>
> > >> Application bundle.=C2=A0 It might display some sort of =
output there.=C2=A0 This<br>
> > >> is my<br>
> > >> first time building an OS X app bundle, so maybe somethi=
ng in the<br>
> > >> plist is incorrect.<br>
> > >><br>
> > >> On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 10:47:28 PM James Mills wr=
ote:<br>
> > >> > So one major issue right now )blocker):<br>
> > >> ><br>
> > >> > a) Open App<br>
> > >> > b) It loads <a href=3D"http://vernica.floodgap.com"=
rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">vernica.floodgap.com</a> by default (=
fine)<br>
> > >> > c) Spins -- Not Responding (not responsive to GUI e=
vents, spinning<br>
> > >><br>
> > >> wheel)<br>
> > >><br>
> > >> > Looking at process stats:<br>
> > >> ><br>
> > >> > consistent ~2.7% CPU util, 2 threads<br>
> > >> ><br>
> > >> > Should I just keep waiting? Or is there a bug?<br>
> > >> ><br>
> > >> > cheers<br>
> > >> > James<br>
> > >> ><br>
> > >> ><br>
> > >> > James Mills / prologic<br>
> > >> ><br>
> > >> > E: <a href=3D"mailto:prologic@shortcircuit.net.au">=
prologic@shortcircuit.net.au</a><br>
> > >> > W: <a href=3D"http://prologic.shortcircuit.net.au" =
rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">prologic.shortcircuit.net.au</a><br>
> > >> ><br>
> > >> > On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 9:44 PM, Kevin Veroneau <=
;<a href=3D"mailto:kevin@veroneau.net">kevin@veroneau.net</a>><br>
> > >><br>
> > >> wrote:<br>
> > >> > > Cameron,=C2=A0 it might be possible to compile=
a version for Mac OS X<br>
> > >> > > 10.4, looking<br>
> > >> > > at the compatibility page, it looks like FPC 2=
.6.4 and Lazarus<br>
> > >> > > 1.2.6<br>
> > >><br>
> > >> can<br>
> > >><br>
> > >> > > build<br>
> > >> > > for OS X 10.4.<br>
> > >> > ><br>
> > >> > > <a href=3D"http://wiki.freepascal.org/Installi=
ng_Lazarus_on_MacOS_X#Com" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://wiki=
.freepascal.org/<wbr>Installing_Lazarus_on_MacOS_X#<wbr>Com</a><br>
> > >><br>
> > >> patibility<br>
> > >><br>
> > >> > > Once this Gopher client has matured enough, an=
d you have about an<br>
> > >><br>
> > >> hour to<br>
> > >><br>
> > >> > > spare, you can try installing Xcode and Lazaru=
s onto OS X 10.4 and<br>
> > >> > > running the<br>
> > >> > > compile process.=C2=A0 There is only one Lazar=
us package needed other<br>
> > >> > > than<br>
> > >><br>
> > >> the<br>
> > >><br>
> > >> > > base<br>
> > >> > > Lazarus components and that is TurboPowerIPro =
which is used for<br>
> > >> > > the<br>
> > >><br>
> > >> HTML<br>
> > >><br>
> > >> > > widget.=C2=A0 Even if this isn't compatibl=
e with needed version of<br>
> > >><br>
> > >> Lazarus, we<br>
> > >><br>
> > >> > > could just replace it with a different widget.=
<br>
> > >> > ><br>
> > >> > > On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 10:25:41 PM Came=
ron Kaiser wrote:<br>
> > >> > > > > Ooops I think you have a packaging p=
roblem.<br>
> > >> > > > ><br>
> > >> > > > > OS X 10.11.6 (El Captain) is unable =
to open the DMG.<br>
> > >> > > > > The error is "unrecognized disk=
image".<br>
> > >> > > ><br>
> > >> > > > It doesn't open on 10.4 either, thoug=
h I strongly suspect the<br>
> > >> > > > binary isn't PowerPC compatible.<br>
> > >> > ><br>
> > >> > > ______________________________<wbr>___________=
______<br>
> > >> > > Gopher-Project mailing list<br>
> > >> > > <a href=3D"mailto:Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.=
debian.org">Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.<wbr>debian.org</a><br>
> > >> > > <a href=3D"http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-=
bin/mailman/listinfo/goph" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://list=
s.alioth.debian.<wbr>org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/<wbr>goph</a><br>
> > >><br>
> > >> er-project<br>
> > >><br>
> > >> ______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
> > >> Gopher-Project mailing list<br>
> > >> <a href=3D"mailto:Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org=
">Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.<wbr>debian.org</a><br>
> > >> <a href=3D"http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailma=
n/listinfo/gopher-project" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://list=
s.alioth.debian.<wbr>org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/<wbr>gopher-project</a><b=
r>
><br>
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> <a href=3D"mailto:Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org">Gopher-Proje=
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> <a href=3D"http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gop=
her-project" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://lists.alioth.debia=
n.<wbr>org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/<wbr>gopher-project</a><br>
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